Igor Kirkwood
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"IIR induces post ringing (less audable as the sound masks the ringing) FIR minimum causes preringing (ringing sound comes before the actual sound event- more audable), FIR linear phase (perfect). As far as i'm aware, that's basically it. "
Hello pos
If I don't mistake you are pos the creator of Rephase software.
We are OK with Jean-Luc Ohl : It's possible to avoid any pre ringing with FIR linear EQ if matching a complementary filter.
So the dualazmak argument against FIR EQ fall completly.
So is possible to built FIR crossover more than 48 dB/octave without phase error.
It sound better, and especially you can cut your loudspeakers (without no more distorsion) lower, for exemple Yamaha Beryllium medium not at 500 Hz with 12dB/octave but 375 Hz with a breakwall cut of 80 dB/octave .
Minimum-phase IIR or FIR will have the exact same time response (ie only post ringing).
Linear-phase FIR will cause preringing if a filter is not matched with a complementary filter t form a proper crossover.
@dualazmak, I did not read all the posts here, but what matters it to consider the acoustical response, that is the "natural" response of the driver in addition to the electrical filter.
Getting an acoustical LR filter is typically not simply a matter of using electrical LR filter. To be clear, using electrical LR filters is very unlikely to produce acoustical LR filters. You need to measure what you get, and adjust using EQ and filters to obtain your acoustical target. Simulation software can be used for this.
When FIR can be used then it become easier as targeting a linear phase response is much easier than trying to match phase shifts between drivers, especially with a 3+ way system.
Hello pos
If I don't mistake you are pos the creator of Rephase software.
We are OK with Jean-Luc Ohl : It's possible to avoid any pre ringing with FIR linear EQ if matching a complementary filter.
So the dualazmak argument against FIR EQ fall completly.
So is possible to built FIR crossover more than 48 dB/octave without phase error.
It sound better, and especially you can cut your loudspeakers (without no more distorsion) lower, for exemple Yamaha Beryllium medium not at 500 Hz with 12dB/octave but 375 Hz with a breakwall cut of 80 dB/octave .