They even put thin foams around the wires? How much effect would that be? Is it because of sonic reason or other reason?
They even put thin foams around the wires? How much effect would that be? Is it because of sonic reason or other reason?
I assume it's to avoid buzz or rattle if the unsecured cable comes to rest against anything else in the cabinet, then gets excited in operation.They even put thin foams around the wires? How much effect would that be? Is it because of sonic reason or other reason?
Having been into this hobby for nearly 25 years I can say that nearly every HiFi, Audiophile, Performance oriented speaker measures best (and should therefore sound best) with the grills OFF.
This is not at all new or even remotely not understood.
Sometimes grills are well designed and affect the sound very little if at all, more often they are a sonic afterthought and detrimental.
Grills are generally there as an option for various reasons (such as looking better in the living to some people). Often grills are taken off when actually used and for many folks (such as myself) never ever put on the speaker - ever. I like the look of the nearly every speaker without grills.
This is very common in the "audiophile/HiFi" realm. Many people like seeing the drivers.
Any speaker with a special tool required to take the grills off likely will not sell well.
I just did some in-room distortion measurements. While I ran out of time before I finished what I had intended. I still was able to test a handful of different speakers.Distortion
A Revel M105
B JBL A130
C Adam TV5
Just impressive here for the JBL
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Sure,Harbeths are designed, according to Alan Shaw, to be used with grills on. They are fairly difficult to remove. But Harbeth sells like crazy.
Thank you for your reply .I would definitely switch out the subwoofer. The A120P only goes down to 32 Hz, for that money go with a subwoofer from SVS, Rythmik, Hsu - all of which have subs that dig deep into at least the low 20's. Especially important since your main focus is movies.
Hi all, this is my first post here as I am going to make my first 5.1 home theatre setup for my bedroom of size 16feet by 15feet height 12 feet.
I am far from an audiophile but I do appreciate a good sound when I hear one . My ratio is movies:music:game , 50:40:10
I have finalised Denon x1600h as my AVR.
I am inclined towards-
Jbl stage a130 L/R
Jbl stage a125c centre
Jbl control 1 pro rear
Jbl a100p or a120p subwoofer
should I make this purchase ? Is it a good choice ? I hope it’s better than the Polk s15 5.1 setup I was about to finalise before someone suggested A130 to me .
Thank you in advance .![]()
A120 are 80-85$ more expensive here and also don’t have mounting kit . Are the Jbl pro ones really that bad in long run ? Can I consider Polk owm3/t15 too ?If the JBL Stage a120 are not much more expensive i would get these instead of the JBL Control as rear speakers. One bad thing with the JBL Control (besides that they don't sound as good as the Stage a120) is also that their speaker surrounds don't live forever. After about 10 years they will turn to dust.
For the Subwoofer choice i would think about if the maximum bass volume is the only important thing or also the bass quality for listening to music and then decide. I can't say for sure, but it seems like (from what i read) that the Bic America rolls of fast below 30 hz, but punches out a little more bass arround 50-70hz. It might sound impressive though. The Polk seems to play a little deeper but might not be as punchy or loud (but i am not sure about that). The Klipsch is a safe bet, JBL is also very well known for making good Subwoofers. Not an easy decision. Also all depending on room modes. Maybe somebody else has better advice.
A120 are 80-85$ more expensive here and also don’t have mounting kit . Are the Jbl pro ones really that bad in long run ? Can I consider Polk owm3/t15 too ?
I would love bass quality over quantity I guess .i would love to get the Jbl because of same looks but as the bass will be kept near a wall so not so sure as it’s rear ported . Also haven’t read any review online about Jbl a120p .
More inclined towards Polk hts 12 as it has great reviews on internet and has down ports.
bic America is most expensive of the lot and I also don’t like the way it looks .
Klipsch Don’t have the build or size of Polk. Also I don’t dig the way it looks . So unless it’s considerably better it’s not my top pick.
Really confused as the place where I live I can’t audition anything and no return policies . Help please .
Then i will look for Polk owm3 or stage a120 . Any idea about Polk audio t15 or micca mb42x ? Also I don’t think I can find Jbl arena 120 now .Are you sure the Stage a120 don't come with wall brackets? I was reading the manual and it says:
"STAGE A120 2 x JBL Stage A120 Compact Bookshelf Loudspeaker 1 x Owner’s Manual 1 x Warranty Card 8 x Feet Pads 2 x Foam Plugs 4 x Wall Brackets 8 x Screws for Wall Brackets "
I would use the Stage a120 if you can but if it's not sooo important that the surround sound stays coherent, you can of course choose other speakers like the Polk. The JBL Control surrounds usually break after some years (i don't know if they fixed the issue but i don't think so). You can still repair them though. There are lot's of videos about it on Youtube. But i would rather spend a little more and have speakers that sound better and will last almost forever.
Other very good speakers are the old JBL Arena 120 series (if you can find them) and they are easy to wall mount. They are also tuned a little different than the Stage Series but they have a much better frequency response on and especially also off axis than the JBL Control 1.
I think i would also not go for the Bic America. All of those Subwoofers will give you enough volume (if you don't listen extremely loud) and i expect the Polk to sound better. I would probably also go for the Polk. I also couldn't find any reviews for the JBL a120p.
Hi all, this is my first post here as I am going to make my first 5.1 home theatre setup for my bedroom of size 16feet by 15feet height 12 feet.
I am far from an audiophile but I do appreciate a good sound when I hear one . My ratio is movies:music:game , 50:40:10
I have finalised Denon x1600h as my AVR.
I am inclined towards-
Jbl stage a130 L/R
Jbl stage a125c centre
Jbl control 1 pro rear
Jbl a100p or a120p subwoofer
should I make this purchase ? Is it a good choice ? I hope it’s better than the Polk s15 5.1 setup I was about to finalise before someone suggested A130 to me .
Thank you in advance .![]()
I hope so . How are Jbl 230 in comparision to stage a130?Yes, that will make a good setup. I use a similar setup with the JBL 230's and the JBL Control CRV, you will love it!
I hope so . How are Jbl 230 in comparision to stage a130?
what subs are you using ?
It’s not common that audiophiles say negative about their own setup . Thanks for telling me .The Studio 230 are pretty bright sounding and people where complaining that they get a little hard on the ears when they listen louder.
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/jbl-studio-2-speaker-system
I would prefer the Stage A130 or even the JBL Arena series
It’s not common that audiophiles say negative about their own setup . Thanks for telling me .
Nice man ! Any idea on their comparision ? What other options you tried or considered in this price range ?It's because i was also deciding between these JBL series of speakers. I finally ordered the Arena 130 because the Stage a130 are sold out here in brazil at the moment though.
Nice man ! Any idea on their comparision ? What other options you tried or considered in this price range ?
I hope so . How are Jbl 230 in comparision to stage a130?
what subs are you using ?
The Studio 230 are pretty bright sounding and people where complaining that they get a little hard on the ears when they listen louder.
https://www.soundandvision.com/content/jbl-studio-2-speaker-system
I would prefer the Stage A130 or even the JBL Arena series