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HumminGuru Ultrasonic vinyl cleaner mini review

Thomas_A

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This is a mini review of the HumminGuru ultrasonic cleaner for vinyl records. The following procedure was used for cleaning. 5 minutes of ultrasonic using alkaline water (≈pH 10) followed by 2 minutes ultrasonic in demineralised water and 5 minutes of drying cycle. Both solutions contained 2 drops/400 mL of the HumminGurus "The Small Bottle".

I made some initial tests with an ABBA record that was bought used and my initial impression was that some noise as well as clicks and pops were reduced. There was also an apparent increase in clarity and detail. To continue measure any effects I looked up a record which I once "destroyed" by either wet play or some strange cleaning recipe. It is a record with classical music and also very long (35 minutes on side A), and has horrible clicks and pops. I tried cleaning that record way back but to no luck.

As method I used click repair to quantify the number of pops and clicks on the record, left and right channel for the whole 35 minutes play. As seen in the table, I made three cleaning cycles and recorded the LP between the cycles. There is a reduction in the number of pops and ticks with each cleaning cycle, but it seems to require many cycles with these solutions make significant results.

Before clean (L and R channel)Clean cycle 1Clean cycle 2Clean cycle 3
895076754480671956612632
1075992821328748792695604

Now the number of clicks is not always telling what is happening. Most clicks got reduced in level and was still detected.

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As a second example I took a used Dire Straits record. This one were also crackly and and microscopic inspection revealed some strange dirt scattered on the record. The first cleaning cycle lead to that the solution got really cloudy after wash and I had to replace it. After the second cycle, there was a decrease in the high-level clicks and pops:
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Strangely, however, the number of clicks and pops increased from 33540/20732 to 43620/33332. On further inspection, the noise floor had decreased significantly and the software found even more smaller clicks and pops. The strange dirt remained (between grooves) and probably need a round of my manual "Phiilips Sonicare toothbrush" cleaning procedure (which is quite laborious).

Another result was that the frequency response differed somewhat after clean with a 0.5-1 dB increase in level above 8 kHz. Below a magnification from MasVis, left channel used before (blue) and after cleaning (red):

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In conclusion. The HumminGuru works to clean records, but it may also require multiple rounds of cleaning for stubborn records, or it may need more pre-clean methods. It is however very nice to use with its automatic cleaning and drying functions.
 
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After a few more records cleaned, the impression holds. The noise floor drops, some but not all pops and clicks disappear or get lower in level, and inreased detail/ high frequency content. Inspecting the records, some however need some manual pre-cleaning to get that black shine back. Another thing is that the main wash fluid gets visibly cloudy after 3-4 records and need to be replaced.
 

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Thank you for sharing your review of the HumminGuru. The number of cleaning cycles and time required to get somewhat clean results seems to match others experiences as well.

If I am feeling lazy, I'll use vacuum cleaning or ultrasonic. But if I actually want to get a truly clean record, I'll use what is likely the ultimate cleaning approach as described in the 3rd edition of the Precision Aqueous Cleaning of Vinyl Records (PACVR) manual https://thevinylpress.com/precision-aqueous-cleaning-of-vinyl-records-3rd-edition/

To be honest, after reading the manual, I regret all the money I've spent on the machines, and other so-called cleaning methods and tools - as the method Neil outlines gets records extremely clean, and is actually backed by materials science and thoroughly explains the rationale behind each process in the cleaning step.

If you are going through multiple cleaning cycles, you may be able to save yourself some time and effort using the PACVR method.
 
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Thank you for sharing your review of the HumminGuru. The number of cleaning cycles and time required to get somewhat clean results seems to match others experiences as well.

If I am feeling lazy, I'll use vacuum cleaning or ultrasonic. But if I actually want to get a truly clean record, I'll use what is likely the ultimate cleaning approach as described in the 3rd edition of the Precision Aqueous Cleaning of Vinyl Records (PACVR) manual https://thevinylpress.com/precision-aqueous-cleaning-of-vinyl-records-3rd-edition/

To be honest, after reading the manual, I regret all the money I've spent on the machines, and other so-called cleaning methods and tools - as the method Neil outlines gets records extremely clean, and is actually backed by materials science and thoroughly explains the rationale behind each process in the cleaning step.

If you are going through multiple cleaning cycles, you may be able to save yourself some time and effort using the PACVR method.
With respect to the horrible record example, there was really nothing that helped, not even manual cleaning. What seems to help is long or repetitive cleaning or the Sonicare toothbrush mechanical cleaning. Whatever the nature of the dirt, mechanical cleaning seems best for some dirty records. The Humminguru gets things better and is easy to use. Doing the manual way for everything is a no no for me.
 

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I'm happy with mine. It does a reasonable job of getting those grooves clean again. Sometimes I have to run a record through twice. Notably, it made a few copies I have listenable again (for example, an original Breakfast in America). I've only used distilled water, never tried anything more advanced.
 
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I would also add that there are few reviews to my knowledge that actually try to quantify the resullts. Noise, pops and clicks and frequency response are all possible to quantify. It comes with difficulties however since a lowered noise floor can fool the algorithm to find very low level clicks and pops.

A simple prewash with tap water and detergent and sponge + rinse in tap water before Humminguru is probably a good procedure. It will remove both loose debris and take care of some greasy stuff as well as loosen some of that hard stuck dirt. Time is a factor as well. At my lab we used to soak glass plates in alkaline wash solution over night.
 

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Thanks for the interesting review Thomas!

I have the Degritter US record cleaner and my impressions track with yours.

In my case the results are anywhere from "no difference at all" to turning an unusable record in to sounding almost new! Usually there is some level of improvement.
 

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This company was at CAF'23. I don't have any vinyal but the presentation was interesting.
 

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I've noticed these ultrasonic cleaners, which are useful for more than just records. 50kHz and effect resembles my small tank-based ultrasonic cleaner. Is anyone else curious? Maybe I'll get one. People do complain about reliability but I think the trick is to avoid using it for more than 10 minute at a time.
 
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