ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2 Speaker Review

[GD Fan]

No audiophile said he pried off the grills pretty easily with a paperclip.

ELAC B5.2 Debut 2.0 Series Speakers

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[arunthegr8]

I was looking to add an Elac Debut 6.2 or Elac Debut Reference DBR-62 as an on wall surround speaker for my Home Theatre setup. Where I live it is only a 100$ difference between the speakers. Price being no bar which one these two speakers would you recommend for a Home Theatre surround sound speaker? From what I am reading the Debut 6.2. seems to be more dynamic than the DBR-62 which is more rounded off for music. Please let me know your reccomendations.

 

[Teeter]

I was looking to add an Elac Debut 6.2 or Elac Debut Reference DBR-62 as an on wall surround speaker for my Home Theatre setup. Where I live it is only a 100$ difference between the speakers. Price being no bar which one these two speakers would you recommend for a Home Theatre surround sound speaker? From what I am reading the Debut 6.2. seems to be more dynamic than the DBR-62 which is more rounded off for music. Please let me know your rec

I have the 6.2 for L & R fronts. Then have the C5.2 as center channel. I really like my ELAC's as my mains and should sound superb as surrounds. I watch a lot of DD movies and listen to internet net music in stereo mode. My basement room is 8 X 14 with listening distance of approx. 7 feet from the mains and 55" TV. I consider the ELAC Debuts a solid investment for my room.

 

[Talisman]

I'm a bit OT, but I see many people asking for suggestions on good quality speakers to use as surround, in my experience the surround tracks are barely sound backgrounds (chatter and cutlery in a restaurant, noise of cars and traffic in the street and some soundtrack accompaniment) so I don't think it's worth investing huge sums of money, two barely decent speakers are really enough and you won't hear any difference with much better speakers for what they reproduce

 

[trevor_bartram]

Hi All, does someone have the crossover design for the ELAC Debut 2.0 B6.2?
I'm going to build a 1/1 mimic of the original crossover with high end parts (for fun).
The resistors and capacitors I know the values of, however no info on the inductance for the coils.
Ordered an LCR inductance meter but this is not in yet.

Thx for any feedback. Peter.

Hi Peter, did you measure the inductance values?

 

[trevor_bartram]

btw I think I've found the crossover schem:

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Hi Marcello, do you know the provenance of this schematic? Has it been verified against the actual crossover? Thanks in advance.

 

[afternine]

Reputed in many circles to be a Very Good Idea.
I never tried it, though.

Yep, removed the grilles from twitters and they come more "alive", less dull and subdued.
The guy here PressReader.com - Elac Debut B6.2 review australia measured them with and without main cloth grille. There's distinct difference in higher freq. response between cloth and no cloth. Similarly, the metal grille affects the sound dispersion and frequency response.

And for anyone that would like to try to pry the metal grilles off but are afraid to damage something - just pull them out with a plastic or wooden pick bit by bit in a circular manner around the twitter and the grille should come off without damage and can be reinstalled/pushed back into place if wanted. But once you hear them without you'll discard the grilles.

 

[Teeter]

Okay, I will recalibrate ALL the speakers, w/o their grills. Gees

Update 1/18/24: I took the grills off the mains plus the center channel. No room recalibration and I think there is a difference. I will take the SS grills off today. My mind said there was a sound improvement.

 

[wwenze]

I actually had to increase treble using EQ when using these as computer speakers. The off-axis sound is so dull compared to other speakers in the same scenario. And since I have more listening positions than just the computer chair I can't toe-in.

And the cabinet just screams "cheap" when you tap it.

I'm still deciding whether to let them perform living room duty or just let them go. Direct sound directivity is certainly going to suck, but maybe in a scenario with lots of reflections the shortcomings may be reduced?

 

[Teeter]

I actually had to increase treble using EQ when using these as computer speakers. The off-axis sound is so dull compared to other speakers in the same scenario. And since I have more listening positions than just the computer chair I can't toe-in.

And the cabinet just screams "cheap" when you tap it.

I'm still deciding whether to let them perform living room duty or just let them go. Direct sound directivity is certainly going to suck, but maybe in a scenario with lots of reflections the shortcomings may be reduced?

You might want to go back to your previous speakers and put the Elac's on Craigs list. These ELAC's may not be right for your NEAR listening pleasure. I assume you have them 6 feet[min] apart, tweeters at ear level and at least 6feet[min] distance, from listening seating.

 

[jbucla2005]

If using Elac Debut 2.0 B6.2 speakers with a subwoofer, what should I set my crossover to on the sub?

 

[Brab]

You really need to experiment for your own environment, but the Elacs can be boomy so higher crossover points might be appropriate.

 

[jbucla2005]

You really need to experiment for your own environment, but the Elacs can be boomy so higher crossover points might be appropriate.

I am sending the output of my dac direct to the sub, and the Elacs are playing full-range. It seems I have to set it to the lowest 50hz setting, or slightly higher, to sound okay and not be too boomy.

 

[Brab]

I thought you were asking about a high pass setting for the Elacs. Yes, if you are running the Elacs full range you definitely want a low setting for the sub.

 

[teched58]

You really need to experiment for your own environment, but the Elacs can be boomy so higher crossover points might be appropriate.

I don't find them boomy at all.

However, the earlier comment about needing to EQ the treble is correct. A +3 db boost at 1k and 2k brings the vocals out nicely.

 

[MediumRare]

I am sending the output of my dac direct to the sub, and the Elacs are playing full-range. It seems I have to set it to the lowest 50hz setting, or slightly higher, to sound okay and not be too boomy.

You will get a huge benefit if you find a way to eq the Elacs bass to roll off at around 100 to 80Hz. They will play much cleaner high bass, which is localized, and you’ll rely on the sub to play deeper bass, which the Elacs cannot play cleanly if at all.

 

[Brab]

You will get a huge benefit if you find a way to eq the Elacs bass to roll off at around 100 to 80Hz. They will play much cleaner high bass, which is localized, and you’ll rely on the sub to play deeper bass, which the Elacs cannot play cleanly if at all.

Exactly my experience.

 

[Teeter]

Yep, removed the grilles from twitters and they come more "alive", less dull and subdued.
The guy here PressReader.com - Elac Debut B6.2 review australia measured them with and without main cloth grille. There's distinct difference in higher freq. response between cloth and no cloth. Similarly, the metal grille affects the sound dispersion and frequency response.

And for anyone that would like to try to pry the metal grilles off but are afraid to damage something - just pull them out with a plastic or wooden pick bit by bit in a circular manner around the twitter and the grille should come off without damage and can be reinstalled/pushed back into place if wanted. But once you hear them without you'll discard the grilles.

The PressReader review on the B6.2, is a far better review than any others......IMO. It was very subjective, and they would put the B6.2 against those priced 2-3X's more, at the time. So, I am very or more happy, to own the ELAC B6.2's. I leave the grills on.

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@afternine, thank you for sharing your information for others.

 

[afternine]

you're welcome! I also think that PressReader praised them good, but their measurements resemble what amir measured, like in "graph2 High frequency response, expanded view" there's also a dip about 3 kHz and then somewhat elevated at higher frequencies, so their review is not entirely bonkers.... I still have mine without metal grills (no little children running around )

 

[Teeter]

you're welcome! I also think that PressReader praised them good, but their measurements resemble what amir measured, like in "graph2 High frequency response, expanded view" there's also a dip about 3 kHz and then somewhat elevated at higher frequencies, so their review is not entirely bonkers.... I still have mine without metal grills (no little children running around )

Ya, at this the price point for these ELAC, B6.2's, they have nice sound for DD Movies, in my 5.1 set-up. I do like some music, but occasionally enjoy 50's and 60's mp3 internet. I just rewatched Dune Part 1 yesterday, and Part 2 this afternoon.

When listening to music, the Denon AVR, auto switches to multi-channel, with the AVR EQ "On." My HT room is 8 X 12. TV is a 55" and watch 6 feet away. The side surround speakers are Polk E-15.

The ELAC, B6.2's, have been a nice all-around, out of the box speaker, in both applications.