Dirac ART is now running on beta FW for Denon Xx800H AVRs!

[broncogr]

The DLBC licenses are now up on the Dirac website
Use the code 30BCDM23 to get 30 % off Bass Control and Bundle licenses

 

[NatX]

Cinema 50 shows U32 available for update. Updating now…

NEW HEOS APP AND FIRMWARE UPDATE AVAILABLE

support-uk.marantz.com

 

[equinox_uk]

All done on my AV10 and Cinema 50. Don’t forget to activate the license in the your account section of the Dirac web page.

Thoughts so far - less boom more control!

Which I guess is the point!

 

[PHD]

As promised. DLBC is out before the end of this year. ART is coming around April 2024. But that's not all, Roon ready certification is now also planned for next year. I was told that at this moment, Masimo hasn't decided whether to certify Roon for both Denon and Marantz, or only for Marantz, as the latter is targeted at audio enthusiasts. I'll try to get more info about this.

P.S. The upcoming Roon-ready certification will convert the AVR into a first-ever multichannel-certified Roon endpoint. At the moment, other AVRs with Roon-ready capabilities, are detected as a 2.0 channel endpoint, therefore, you could only simulate multichannel music using DSU/AURO 3D and so on. Marantz is expected to support multichannel streaming. Even the idea of Dolby Atmos support via Tidal is being considered, so I was told.

 

[PHD]

Now on sale. Try the coupon code

 

[multisport4me]

As promised. DLBC is out before the end of this year. ART is coming around April 2024. But that's not all, Roon ready certification is now also planned for next year. I was told that at this moment, Masimo hasn't decided whether to certify Roon for both Denon and Marantz, or only for Marantz, as the latter is targeted at audio enthusiasts. I'll try to get more info about this.

P.S. The upcoming Roon-ready certification will convert the AVR into a first-ever multichannel-certified Roon endpoint. At the moment, other AVRs with Roon-ready capabilities, are detected as a 2.0 channel endpoint, therefore, you could only simulate multichannel music using DSU/AURO 3D and so on. Marantz is expected to support multichannel streaming. Even the idea of Dolby Atmos support via Tidal is being considered, so I was told.

I was afraid this given the acquisition of Roon by Harman. Now I have to wonder if Roon Ready will ever come at all? Also, per my earlier post, the AV10 shows up in Roon as under Roon Ready but has a disclaimer on it that its pending certification.

 

[DutchJay]

I bought and installed single sub dlbc and put that into my slot 1 and compared it to my normal dirac live full bandwidth curve slot 2 (which has my own custom crossover made into the curve of the fronts and sub) and could not hear any difference. The bass was the same to my ears. Tried it with a couple of movies but also with a lot of 2 channel music and flipped between the slots.

I asked dirac for a reimbursement.

 

[slaweks]

I bought and installed single sub dlbc and put that into my slot 1 and compared it to my normal dirac live full bandwidth curve slot 2 (which has my own custom crossover made into the curve of the fronts and sub) and could not hear any difference. The bass was the same to my ears. Tried it with a couple of movies but also with a lot of 2 channel music and flipped between the slots.

I asked dirac for a reimbursement.

I thought that you only use DLBC with multiple subs, otherwise I would also expect no differences.

 

[multisport4me]

I thought that you only use DLBC with multiple subs, otherwise I would also expect no differences.

The more subs, the greater the benefit, in my experience. One sub may not require DLBC at all for most.

 

[Doc_Octopus]

This is interesting - I've don't recall ever seeing the AV10 (or SACD 30n) show up under Roon Ready. But both are "uncertified" so still can't use RAAT.

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Wonderful news!

 

[equinox_uk]

I bought and installed single sub dlbc and put that into my slot 1 and compared it to my normal dirac live full bandwidth curve slot 2 (which has my own custom crossover made into the curve of the fronts and sub) and could not hear any difference. The bass was the same to my ears. Tried it with a couple of movies but also with a lot of 2 channel music and flipped between the slots.

I asked dirac for a reimbursement.

I have a couple of home setups - one with two subs and one with one sub.

I def noticed a difference even with only one sub - but it wasn't huge - mainly less 'boom' and more enveloping bass. That said I did not do must customization re crossovers etc. I also use the harman-10dB curve for movies.

 

[delamelon]

I can't find the duration of the -30% promotion...?

 

[Tafelberg]

I missed the recent Denon X3800H sale for $899 on Adorama.

If anyone knows of a good deal on a Dirac DLBC compatible AVR, please let us know. Thanks!

 

[sweetchaos]

I missed the recent Denon X3800H sale for $899 on Adorama.

If anyone knows of a good deal on a Dirac DLBC compatible AVR, please let us know. Thanks!

Check my signature for link to Dirac compatible AVRs.
Then keep an eye on the Deals thread.

 

[sweetchaos]

ART is coming around April 2024.

Epic!!

Are all the units that are getting DLBC, also getting ART in the future?
Can we expect this?

 

[jtatknox]

I had purchased the X4800H on Adorama and then the Black Friday Dirac Full Range license. I just purchased the DLBC multi-sub license with the 30% off. I guess I will set everything up over the holidays and see how it compares to my MiniDSP SHD with Dirac. Will report back.

Anybody have a Rythmik F12 collecting dust that they don't mind parting with?

 

[sweetchaos]

I thought this would be interesting to know, so here you go...

Dirac Live Bass Control
Single Sub

Manufacturer	Model	Dirac.com link	USA Price No affiliate	Mfg link	Channels	Amir Review
Arcam	AVR5	Link	1690	link	12.1 ch preamp 7 ch amp
Arcam	AVR10 -officially discontinued by Arcam	Link	2200	link	11.2 ch preamp 7 ch amp	Link
Arcam	AVR11	Link	2440	link	11.2 ch preamp 7 ch amp

Dirac Live Bass Control
Multi Sub

Manufacturer	Model	Dirac.com Link	USA Price No affiliate	Mfg Link	Channels	Amir Review
Arcam	AV40 -officially discontinued by Arcam	Link	4950	link	16 ch preamp No amps = processor Receiver allows up to 4 subs to be connected to the 'SUB' or 'Ch13/14/15/16' outputs.
Arcam	AV41	Link	4200	link	16 ch preamp No amps = processor Receiver allows up to 4 subs to be connected to the 'SUB' or 'Ch13/14/15/16' outputs.
Arcam	AVR20 -officially discontinued by Arcam	Link	4400	link	16.1 ch preamp 7 ch amp
Arcam	AVR21	Link	3760	link	16.1 ch preamp 7 ch amp
Arcam	AVR30 -officially discontinued by Arcam	Link	5280	link	16.1 ch preamp 7 ch amp
Arcam	AVR31	Link	5520	link	16.1 ch preamp 7 ch amp
Bryston	SP4	Link	13k	link	16 ch preamp No amps = processor
Denon	AVR-A1H	Link	6500	link	15.4 ch preamp 15 ch amp
Denon	AVR-X4800H	Link	2500	link	11.4 ch preamp 9 ch amp	Link
Denon	AVR-X3800H	Link	1700	link	11.4 ch preamp 9 ch amp	Link
Focal	Astral 16	Link	20k	link	16 ch processing 12 ch amp 4 ch preamp via xlr
Integra	DRX-8.4	Link	3200	link	11.4 ch preamp 11 ch amp
Marantz	AV10	Link	7000	link	15.4 ch preamp No amps = processor	Link
Marantz	Cinema 40	Link	3500	link	11.4 ch preamp 9 ch amp	Upcoming review
Marantz	Cinema 50	Link	2500	link	11.4 ch preamp 9 ch amp
Monoprice	HTP-1 Note: Monoprice is currently beta testing ART (link). So we can expect ART soon!	Link	4000	link	16 ch preamp No amps = processor Up to 9 main level channels, 6 upper/height channels, and up to 5 subs.
Onkyo	TX-RZ70	Link	2800	link	11.2 ch preamp 11 ch amp
Pioneer	VSA-LX805	Link	n/a	link	11.4 ch preamp 11 ch amp
Pioneer / Elite	VSX-LX805	Link	3000	link	11.4 ch preamp 11 ch amp

Dirac ART:

Manufacturer	Model	Dirac.com Link	USA Price No affiliate	Mfg link	Channels
StormAudio	I.ISP 16.12 -I think this is discontinued	Link		couldnt find
StormAudio	ISP Core 16	Link	25k-35k	Link	audio outputs = 16ch analog (XLR) audio inputs = 4x RCA analog (7.1 or stereo) decoding = 16 decoding/upmixing channels processing = Up to 16ch
StormAudio	ISP Elite MK1 -officially discontinued by StormAudio	Link		Link
StormAudio	ISP Elite MK2 -officially discontinued by StormAudio	Link		Link
StormAudio	ISP Master -I think this is discontinued	Link		couldnt find
StormAudio	ISP Elite MK3	Link	18k	Link	audio outputs = 16ch, 24ch or 32ch analog (XLR) - optional audio inputs = 16ch digital (AES/EBU) - optional decoding = 24 decoding/upmixing channels processing = Up to 32ch

Note: Amir only reviewed 1 StormAudio, the ISP 16 MK2 (link).
Note 2: ART for Denon/Marantz is rumored for April 2024 (source).

Changelog:
2023-12-05: Launched
2023-12-14:
- Today, Denon/Marantz introduced DLBC for their AVRs/processors, so I updated my table to show the Dirac licenses can be purchased already.
- Included links to Amir's reviews, and upcoming review.
- Added Denon/Marantz rumored release of ART, coming April 2024. (source)

UPDATE:
Launched new thread:

Comparison of Dirac Live Bass Control (DLBC) and Dirac ART for all known AVRs/Processors

Intro: Terminology: Comparing Dirac's technology (DL vs DLBC vs ART): DLBC (Single Sub License): DLBC (Multi Sub License): ART: Coming Soon (Rumors and Confirmed): Current Promo: Limitation of my thread: Changelog:

www.audiosciencereview.com

 

[davidc]

I just purchased a AVR-X4800h. I downloaded theDirac live room correction software,. Haven't tried it yet. I'm very, very excited to get Dirac live active room treatment in the near future. But am I really going to have to purchase the subwoofer correction as well? Even though I do not need it nor can I use it? I have very large tower speakers. Fully capable of producing all the basic I could possibly want. I cannot use the Dirac bass control for these speakers .But according to some things that people have written, i will be forced to purchase it and order to get ART. Is that correct? I sure hope not.

 

[multisport4me]

I just purchased a AVR-X4800h. I downloaded theDirac live room correction software,. Haven't tried it yet. I'm very, very excited to get Dirac live active room treatment in the near future. But am I really going to have to purchase the subwoofer correction as well? Even though I do not need it nor can I use it? I have very large tower speakers. Fully capable of producing all the basic I could possibly want. I cannot use the Dirac bass control for these speakers .But according to some things that people have written, i will be forced to purchase it and order to get ART. Is that correct? I sure hope not.

I am not certain how they will charge and if DLBC is required for ART. From what I've read so far, it will be required. Just to be clear about your full range towers - DLBC will include bass frequencies from all speakers when calculating/optimizing bass for your room. That said, the more full range speakers/subwoofers you have, the greater the benefits of DLBC. In fact, from what little I've read about ART, the same holds true - the more the merrier to far greater effect.

 

[davidc]

I am not certain how they will charge and if DLBC is required for ART. From what I've read so far, it will be required. Just to be clear about your full range towers - DLBC will include bass frequencies from all speakers when calculating/optimizing bass for your room. That said, the more full range speakers/subwoofers you have, the greater the benefits of DLBC. In fact, from what little I've read about ART, the same holds true - the more the merrier to far greater effect.

I was under the impression that DBLC could only be applied to subwoofers. And not to full range speakers. Am I wrong?