Denon AVR-X4800H AVR Review

[hiphop_odc]

Yes, that's what I thought Phil alluded to.
Again, if he meant DLBC, there would have been no need to talk about it, because DLBC of couse will set crossovers, from launch time.

Bass management take control of the AVR's crossover, so your overwrite the ones in the Denon, and you can set it to whatever you want, like 67hz or 99hz. And you can see the calculated response

 

[peng]

Bass management take control of the AVR's crossover, so your overwrite the ones in the Denon, and you can set it to whatever you want, like 67hz or 99hz. And you can see the calculated response

I think you are correct, but I don't have a Denon so will take your words for it.

 

[Miker 1102]

I added DLBC to my full spectrum license using that discount. My results are here:

My first attempt at Dirac this morning (on the 3800)

Still not understanding why Dirac exists! Dirac Live applies some phase corrections and although I doubt the accuracy of these, Audyssey cannot do that at all. All its filters are in the frequency domain. Also Dirac Live can crossover subwoofer at any frequency (unlike the fixed frequencies of...

www.audiosciencereview.com

And here is a decent roundup of the available DRC options in an X series Denon receiver:

Simple Home Cinema - Bringing Your Entertainment to Life

I discuss the bass performance of Audyssey, Dirac Live, Dirac Live Bass Control, Dirac Live ART and Multi-Sub Optimiser.

simplehomecinema.com

Take my opinion with a grain of salt, but I cannot hear much if any difference in my setup in my room. But I am in dedicated room with symmetrical placement of speakers and subs. Perhaps someone with a more complicated environment would benefit more.

Quite honestly, I think my Audyssey results, although a bit different, are just as good as my Dirac results and I could have skipped both licenses, but curiosity killed my wallet.

Thank you.

 

[mj30250]

At the moment I have a 5.2 setup. The subs are Hsu VTF-3 MK5s which are crossed at 80Hz. I have been thinking about adding a pair of Hsu ULS-15 MK2s to the system for use primarily as midbass modules. They have an "EQ2" setting which rolls off low frequencies at 50Hz to provide more midbass headroom. I would look to cross them at around 150Hz and place them next to the FL and FR speakers to avoid localization issues. The four independent sub-outs of the X4800H would help to get me started, but it doesn't seem that Audyssey XT32 allows for engaging separate LPFs for each set of subs. Is this possible with XT32? If not, what would be the next best options? Thanks.

 

[hiphop_odc]

At the moment I have a 5.2 setup. The subs are Hsu VTF-3 MK5s which are crossed at 80Hz. I have been thinking about adding a pair of Hsu ULS-15 MK2s to the system for use primarily as midbass modules. They have an "EQ2" setting which rolls off low frequencies at 50Hz to provide more midbass headroom. I would look to cross them at around 150Hz and place them next to the FL and FR speakers to avoid localization issues. The four independent sub-outs of the X4800H would help to get me started, but it doesn't seem that Audyssey XT32 allows for engaging separate LPFs for each set of subs. Is this possible with XT32? If not, what would be the next best options? Thanks.

I think you need Audyssey MultEQ-X for that

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[mj30250]

I think you need Audyssey MultEQ-X for that

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Is it definitely possible even with MultEQ-X? I scanned the user guide, and it's fairly sparse on details.

 

[ban25]

Is it definitely possible even with MultEQ-X? I scanned the user guide, and it's fairly sparse on details.

I don't recall if it can set multiple subwoofer crossovers or not. I believe you can download MQX and run it in a "demo mode" for free. That said, if you can't do it in the X4800H's setup menu, then I have 99% confidence it can't be done in MQX.

 

[Descartes]

An other review of this AVR

Denon AVR-X4800H AV Receiver Review - HomeTheaterHifi.com

The Denon AVR-X4800H AV Receiver takes its place in the competitive $2500 MSRP arena for home theater receivers. This is a price point at...

hometheaterhifi.com

 

[peng]

An other review of this AVR

Denon AVR-X4800H AV Receiver Review - HomeTheaterHifi.com

The Denon AVR-X4800H AV Receiver takes its place in the competitive $2500 MSRP arena for home theater receivers. This is a price point at...

hometheaterhifi.com

Thanks, that's a very detailed review, with measurements. The numbers are not as good as Amir's but are not too far off either. Different bench, by different people likely using slightly different protocols, bound to result in slightly different results. Even Dr. Rich mentioned the PCM5102A DAC chip is the weak link, not exactly his words but you get the idea.

 

[CapMan]

That’s a very reassuring review as a 4800
Owner !

 

[Joost80]

That’s a very reassuring review as a 4800
Owner !

Nice to read that review indeed, but after owning my 4800h for months I didn't need any additional prove it is a really good receiver! Best addition to my game and movie 7.1.4 setup i bought in years.

 

[supermood]

good day. does the 4800h really have an 100mbit card? Hard to believe in 2024! but I'm having an orange light here on a 10 port switch and only cat7 cables

 

[ban25]

good day. does the 4800h really have an 100mbit card? Hard to believe in 2024! but I'm having an orange light here on a 10 port switch and only cat7 cables

Yes. It's unfortunately quite common on consumer gear, including many TVs. Hopefully it does not negatively impact the performance of Roon streaming when that feature is released.

 

[popej]

does the 4800h really have an 100mbit card? Hard to believe in 2024! but I'm having an orange light here on a 10 port switch

If you have a switch, then speed of a single port doesn't hamper other ports. 100Mb is more than enough for uploading firmware, remote control and audio transfer. It would allow for 20 channels of uncompressed PCM 192/24.

 

[supermood]

I know that it doesn't affect the other ports? not the topic.

have problems to believe that shit decision of integrating a 100mbit card. and for some things you could do with the device that's by far to slow. Lucky me I'm using specific devices for that. you could sometime check your 20 channels pcm theory but thats completely wrong imho. the 10mbit effective is not even enough for a good tidal mqa quality, which could be streamed via internal heos I guess?
or maybe not I've learned about so many heos restrictions in the meantime... who know..

 

[supermood]

Yes. It's unfortunately quite common on consumer gear, including many TVs. Hopefully it does not negatively impact the performance of Roon streaming when that feature is released.

puhh bad... but thanks! they are hiding that info very good. not a word in the manual or spec sheets or every site I found..

I have a oled 4 or 5 years old with 1gig. and needed with dv movies without the receiver / external streaming device. sometimes 80mbit/s load...

 

[ban25]

puhh bad... but thanks! they are hiding that info very good. not a word in the manual or spec sheets or every site I found..

I have a oled 4 or 5 years old with 1gig. and needed with dv movies without the receiver / external streaming device. sometimes 80mbit/s load...

Yeah it's annoying. For my Sony X900H TV, I have to hang a USB dongle off of it to get GigE.

 

[supermood]

Yeah it's annoying. For my Sony X900H TV, I have to hang a USB dongle off of it to get GigE.

unbelievable! that's 3 eur more per device with their prices best guess... lucky you they've given you an usb 2 at least otherwise that wouldn't work...

 

[popej]

for some things you could do with the device

What things?

you could sometime check your 20 channels pcm theory but thats completely wrong imho.

20*24bit*192000/sek=92.16Mbit/sek
Or am I wrong?

 

[supermood]

What things?



20*24bit*192000/sek=92.16Mbit/sek
Or am I wrong?

these things.
streaming own dsd and flac and atmos and whatever files with it ?

as said the UI/UX is not for me I stream different but in general it's a good idea to minimize electronic devices and energy consumption...

yeah your math is great I was also always good in it
the problem is you don't get 100mbit with a 100mbit card. usually a 10th of it, maybe 12 mbit if I remember correctly there are calculators for it available with google etc...

you can be lucky to get 110mbit with a perfect 1 gig setup to my knowledge