This is what I've got as well. Also, using an ethernet cable to connect the box to house 1000mbits lan, just to be certain.thx. since I have an apple music family account, I decided I'd go the route of getting a AppleTV (which supports 24-bit lossless), and connecting it to the DVR And there's an appleTV app, so....
Hey @DobbyisfreeDEQ and DV do different things.
DEQ adjusts the frequency response of the system to compensate for how our hearing works at different volume levels. Hence why (at reference level) it does nothing at all.
And you can adjust the reference level offset so you can tune what level of DEQ works best for your content. For example, for me, FBI we watch with no DEQ. But S.W.A.T. with DEQ at RLO of 10dB.
DV reduces the dynamics of the sound. Great if you need to hear the doorbell. But effectively, in my opinion, the whole point in having HC equipment in my lounge instead of just TV sound is for DYNAMICS and IMPACT.
Sadly, someone who I won't call my friend somewhere decided that DEQ would also boost surround channels. This ruins the feature and means having to be more clever about its usage profile.
I may be wrong, as I am going by memory only, but if I am right, Denon's $20 app seemed to have reduced the boost already. That' because I felt the boost when I first got the AV8801 and X4400H, but not so much by the time I traded them in. Now I felt my Anthem boosted the surround noticeabley more than the X4400H did. Again, I can be wrong, it's subjective, and by momory only.Hey @Dobbyisfree
I submitted this ticket to Audyssey in Oct 2022 asking...
Will you be adding the option to not boost the surrounds to DEQ?
"Yes, in the next MultEQ-X release, we will be giving users an option to not boost the surrounds while using DEQ."
Then just last month I followed up and got this response:
Customer Support Team, Aug 11, 2023, 10:17 AM PDT:
We have given to the solution to Denon but it is up to them to implement it. Please put in a word with them so that they know how important it is.
Does anyone know the appropriate method to contact Denon to get them to roll this out?
yes, so I since realized the BEST way to access apple music and run it into an AVR, is with a Mac, as that let's you keep it set at 44.1 And there's a very good itunes-remote app for iOS, so one can still sit on the sofa. Sigh.....Interesting, seems per the Internet that Apple Music lossless is transcoded to 256kbps AAC over Airplay. That's lame.
On the Apple TV I think 44.1 is resampled to 48, which could have its own drawbacks.
Re @amirm comments on 192kHz sampling helping to ameliorate some of the filter response issues on the 4800 I wonder whether it would be advised to use the upsampling function in Roon to send 192kHz streams (I will be using a Roon endpoint via coax/toslink into the digital input of the 4800.The 192 kHz shows how good it could be with a perfect filter. Still not great by desktop standards but much better than what we see at 48 kHz.
If I’m running audio in via hdmi (mac mini) and I’m using external amps, would that use pure-direct mode and be considered digital input?DSP seems to work at 96kHz. Filter problem is probably specific only to pure direct mode with digital input. Why would anyone use this?
Hot take, I know, but if you're planning to use Roon, just sell the 4800 and swap out to an RZ70.Re @amirm comments on 192kHz sampling helping to ameliorate some of the filter response issues on the 4800 I wonder whether it would be advised to use the upsampling function in Roon to send 192kHz streams (I will be using a Roon endpoint via coax/toslink into the digital input of the 4800.
Congrats on the arrival of the new avr!Question to owners - my 4800 arrived and I have set up. When it starts up I get relay clicks like my previous Marantz but also a short 0.5s metallic buzz from the area around the transformers. Sounds like the noise an old door bell makes when you hold the ringer plates.
the box has definitely been stood on its end as the polystyrene cracked and broken on one end.
Edit - it’s only on startup and is intermittent, not every start up
Thanks for the congrats - it’s sounding great and frankly no different to my more expensive and existing ‘HiFi’ amps.Congrats on the arrival of the new avr!
Did that 0.5s buzz from around the transformer happen every time on start up, or just that one time? If it happens just once, or very occasionally then it is likely normal, due to high inrush current.
Thanks for the congrats - it’s sounding great and frankly no different to my more expensive and existing ‘HiFi’ amps.
I’d say it happens 2/3s of the time.
Is there an easy way to post a video?
Preference is to get another unit and see if that resolves it. If it’s the same buzz I guess it’s just a made in Japan feature