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Denon AVR-X4800H AVR Review
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Looks like it is quite flexible, you can have multi-zone with bi-amp:
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Connecting multi-zone speakers AVC-X4800H
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OMG Hallelujah, Hosanna in the highest!
Hi audio lovers,
Have the 4800 for a couple weeks now and I;m very happy with stereo image with the pure direct mode with a wiim pro plus connected by coax TIDAL hi res ( tried analog as well but sounded the same to my ears). Movies/ Netflix Atmos all sound very tide crisp with the standard auddyssy calibration. Love the Dynamic EQ functie as well. I think it's way better than the older Denon models which I had.
As we look out for nirvana of sound we want to maximize our system so I bought the Dirac Live full bandwidth, the UMIK actually I upgraded to the 4800 to make use of Dirac! So yesterday I took the off to do all the measurements wide/focus etc. But I feel like a clown, it just isn't any better than Audyssey to my ears, it sounds thinner and do my speakers right. My setup: 2x B&W 702s2 HTm71S3 sub SVS2000 and two rear and height speakers its a 5.1.2 system
I read al the rave reviews about dirac so wonder if I'm doing something wrong? Strongly thinking about a 350 refund
Maybe wait for ART expansion. Any one else with same experience?
Have the 4800 for a couple weeks now and I;m very happy with stereo image with the pure direct mode with a wiim pro plus connected by coax TIDAL hi res ( tried analog as well but sounded the same to my ears). Movies/ Netflix Atmos all sound very tide crisp with the standard auddyssy calibration. Love the Dynamic EQ functie as well. I think it's way better than the older Denon models which I had.
As we look out for nirvana of sound we want to maximize our system so I bought the Dirac Live full bandwidth, the UMIK actually I upgraded to the 4800 to make use of Dirac! So yesterday I took the off to do all the measurements wide/focus etc. But I feel like a clown, it just isn't any better than Audyssey to my ears, it sounds thinner and do my speakers right. My setup: 2x B&W 702s2 HTm71S3 sub SVS2000 and two rear and height speakers its a 5.1.2 system
I read al the rave reviews about dirac so wonder if I'm doing something wrong? Strongly thinking about a 350 refund
Maybe wait for ART expansion. Any one else with same experience?
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To fix the 'thin' sound, you just need to adjust the target curve from the default. Add a bit more bass and it should sound 'fuller'.
Since you have a UMIK1, you can download REW and take a measurement from the main listening position. If you do so and post the frequency response graph, members here can help you dial-in the EQ.
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Since you have a UMIK1, you can download REW and take a measurement from the main listening position. If you do so and post the frequency response graph, members here can help you dial-in the EQ.
REW room acoustics and audio device measurement and analysis software
REW is free software for room acoustic measurement, loudspeaker measurement and audio device measurement and analysis
www.roomeqwizard.com
4800 for a nutty price of $1399 at Adorama. Details here: https://slickdeals.net/f/16969894-d...-receiver-1399-free-s-h?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1
Hey guys, I have been busy with life and haven't had a chance to keep up with this thread. Whats the consensus on whether getting Dirac on 4800h is worth it? Would I notice a difference in sound clarity and details? Would it sound better overall noticeably? I had Dirac Live on RZ50 so I know what it can do but my question is on this particular receiver, if its worth the $350 over Oddyssey
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Do they have a trial for it? It's kind of silly that Dirac wouldn't let D+M owners try it for 1-2 months to see if they like it and buy it. It's such a missed opportunity - everyone is afraid that it might not add much but Dirac should feel confident that it does make a difference and people will want it once they try it. Plus, there's also the fear that Dirac may not work (I couldn't get measurements without question marks for the life of me and I did about 100 positions) so folks wanna hedge their bets.
I paid nearly the same for the 3800 this past summer. Shoulda waited...
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EUR300 difference for me. Would have pulled the trigger with that difference. Not too unhappy about X3800H though, that was a good deal at the time as well. Now of course even better prices available.
This fall is turning out to be a great time to upgrade, at least with Denon AV amplifiers.
I’m iffy on it. It’s a $400 difference from what I paid for the 3800. I’m just using it as a preamp/processor so I doubt any of the differences would mean a lot to me. The savings can cover the Dirac license.
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Audyssy’s Dynamic EQ is FUNDEMENTAL to a Hi-Fi experience once you get the tonality of your system just right.
Can’t think that Dirac can compete with it. I had it before with a miniDSP and while correction wise it’s better it will sound perfect on only sound level. And you never listen at only one sound level.
Can’t think that Dirac can compete with it. I had it before with a miniDSP and while correction wise it’s better it will sound perfect on only sound level. And you never listen at only one sound level.
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Is that how it behaves? Does it just increase the volume of the surrounds and subs? I expected it to match the Fletcher-Munson curves and change volumes for frequencies for al channels.
It also seems to screw up the measurements if you have it ON and OFF during the calibration. Turning it on and off requires a new profile.
This guy is using C weighting so he can’t measure the increase in bass in the front speakers below 100Hz as the level gets lower. The biggest facepalm moment of my life.
Also the first few comments in that thread says that it doesn’t make any difference whether you have it on/off during calibration. The system turns it off (and all processing) for test tones.
Check out this thread for how Dynamic EQ behaves
www.audiosciencereview.com
The problem with Audyssey Dynamic EQ
Overall I'm quite happy with what DEQ does to the frequency response (boosting bass and the high end); but I don't like what it does to the surround channel levels. I just made some measurements with different Dynamic EQ settings to confirm my impression that it boosts the surround channels too...
www.audiosciencereview.com
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Check out this thread for how Dynamic EQ behaves
The problem with Audyssey Dynamic EQ
Overall I'm quite happy with what DEQ does to the frequency response (boosting bass and the high end); but I don't like what it does to the surround channel levels. I just made some measurements with different Dynamic EQ settings to confirm my impression that it boosts the surround channels too...
It seems to do 2 things then - follow the Fletcher-Munson curve but also augment the surrounds. They should have broken that up into boosted surround sound as it screws up the balance at -15 to -20db loudness that almost everyone listens to.
Why is there a DEQ 0, -5, -10, -15 with -30? Does DEQ allow levels?
I better find out as I just ordered a 4800h - the deal was too good to pass.
