I agree, I still think the recordings weren't very good as another source of confusion glossing over plenty that makes me not want to guess what speakers these are.I've no idea really. It's one thing to do a preference test but as to guessing which speaker I'm listening to through binaural recording using an unknown mic setup, of speakers positioned somewhere in an unknown room using recordings, I'm not familiar with.. well let's just say I'd rather look for a needle in a haystack
Harbeth?
The worst thing about using a binaural head is you're using a binaural head. Those heads are obviously not using the listener's individual HRTF, which is a significant diminution if not an outright disqualifier to rendering any of those speakers accurately to any individual over headphones.The Bach version sounds a lot like the 1980 Harnoncourt version that I really, really don't like
I didn't vote. I don't particularly like any of the recordings, one was kind of OKish but felt a bit muffled, two sounded bad, 1 was awful to my ears.
@thewas as you noted, too bad we can't choose the tracks.
Yes, you and few others didn't like them, as you have written repeatedly in this thread. I also don't find them great myself either and also don't find the used music good for such tests. On the other hand the results positively surprised me with their consistency and also matching to what we would expect from the Harman rating theories. And interestingly one of the very few guess till now was even quite good in describing typical loudspeaker tuning classes which all show that they aren't too bad either and/or some people are able to hear some loudspeaker characteristics hrough them.I agree, I still think the recordings weren't very good as another source of confusion glossing over plenty that makes me not want to guess what speakers these are.
Yes, you and few others didn't like them, as you have written repeatedly in this thread. I also don't find them great myself either and also don't find the used music good for such tests. On the other hand the results positively surprised me with their consistency and also matching to what we would expect from the Harman rating theories. And interestingly one of the very few guess till now was even quite good in describing typical loudspeaker tuning classes which all show that they aren't too bad either and/or some people are able to hear some loudspeaker characteristics hrough them.
Yes and no. I agree that tonality of (early) binaural recordings (using the Neumann dummy head) sound a bit weird to me, but I have several radio plays where the localisation effects works very good to me (using Sennheiser headphones like my old HD580 without EQ).The worst thing about using a binaural head is you're using a binaural head. Those heads are obviously not using the listener's individual HRTF, which is a significant diminution if not an outright disqualifier to rendering any of those speakers accurately to any individual over headphones.
This of course is the biggest problem of binaural recordings, although it can be partially compensated by EQing individually the listeners headphone to his own HRTF.The worst thing about using a binaural head is you're using a binaural head. Those heads are obviously not using the listener's individual HRTF, which is a significant diminution if not an outright disqualifier to rendering any of those speakers accurately to any individual over headphones.
C wouldn't be a KEF, not in a million years.Kii Three
Dutch&Dutch 8C
Kef
B&W
There ya go
At least some typical on-axis and a couple of axis measurements and for some similar models there are also full spinoramas.Does that imply there are spinoramas available for each of the models tested?
This of course is the biggest problem of binaural recordings, although it can be partially compensated by EQing individually the listeners headphone to his own HRTF.
But even without it the research has shown surprisingly good correlation to the captured loudpeaker preferences, see https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...st-of-4-loudspeakers.26785/page-6#post-924548
Yes and even then a binaural recording and playback is a reduction of a 3D function field/matrix to a single transfer function.In addition to that, you would need a binaural curve. No bass boost, and no treble drop. So not even the Etymotic curve would do here.
I am soon to record the correct versions with my home-made human setup to compare to the current tracks.Yes and even then a binaural recording and playback is a reduction of a 3D function field/matrix to a single transfer function.
The worst thing about using a binaural head is you're using a binaural head. Those heads are obviously not using the listener's individual HRTF, which is a significant diminution if not an outright disqualifier to rendering any of those speakers accurately to any individual over headphones.
There is of course a big difference if you have a binaural recording of a real acoustic event or one of 2 hifi loudspeakers in a typical hifi listening setup and too high listening distance playing a stereo recording, which is also the difference between "live" and typical stereo reproduction.I agree but what's interesting is that these recordings sound really, really poor in comparison to Binaural recordings from Chesky Records which, even if they aren't ideal from the individual HRTF perspective, are much better and giving you 3D impressions. It's widely available on streaming services. The barbershop track is pretty fun.
Dr. Chesky's Sensational, Fantastic, and Simply Amazing Binaural Sound Show
C wouldn't be a KEF, not in a million years.
unless it's some shady discontinued model from the previous millennium.