Click my signature. I even have a Speaker Selector sheet that you can filter, just need a Google account.@MZKM Do you have a list of all speakers and your preference rating scores? I'd like to compare for upcoming shopping...
I'm glad that Dave appears to want to fix the Luna series, but some of the members on that forum are pretty rough. I tried to be sensible there, it remains painful.Ascend implies they will try to make improvements to the speakers based on these measurements: "That stated, we do not mess around here and we take both measurements and feedback very seriously and as such, we are already deep into working on this. The Luna and Duo will be better speakers because of you, as will our production line testing procedures."
http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/sh...h-center-Luna-S2-or-Horizon&p=64388#post64388
I thought that was a great response.Ascend implies they will try to make improvements to the speakers based on these measurements: "That stated, we do not mess around here and we take both measurements and feedback very seriously and as such, we are already deep into working on this. The Luna and Duo will be better speakers because of you, as will our production line testing procedures."
http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/sh...h-center-Luna-S2-or-Horizon&p=64388#post64388
I really don't get why Dave says he wishes PGD(AAForum) would have sent not sent it in to ASR and only talked to Dave.
To me it seems the only way for the owner who submitted the Lunas to get an idea of what's going on without spending EXTRA thousands of dollars was ASR and Amir.
AA should take this as an opportunity to work with more qualified acoustiticians to dial in their own testing method or recommend a feasable alternative.
I don't think anyone expects a small company like AA to be perfect everytime, A great company is not one that never makes mistakes but one that fixes them when they find out.
AA should take this as an opportunity to work with more qualified acoustiticians to dial in their own testing method or recommend a feasable alternative.
I don't think anyone expects a small company like AA to be perfect everytime, A great company is not one that never makes mistakes but one that fixes them when they find out.
Fair enough, I just don't see it meaning anything else.That is not what Dave said. he only expressed that he wished the person had contacted him first regarding the issue. Here is the quote....
".....I have zero hard feelings as to you sending them in to Amir, but I do wish you would have contacted us first. That stated, we do not mess around here and we take both measurements and feedback very seriously and as such, we are already deep into working on this. The Luna and Duo will be better speakers because of you, as will our production line testing procedures. "
http://forum.ascendacoustics.com/showthread.php?6574-Which-center-Luna-S2-or-Horizon/page12
On that note, I do look forward to further responses from Dave to see what he says and does about this.
Smoothing taken way too far?Here are the posted measurements.
Something is very wrong here, the Ascend measurements look nothing like those performed by Amir.
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I agree. The data about the issue came from my testing, not the owner. It is not like this is an amplifier with one channel dead or something.I just don't see a scenario in which PGD contacts AA first and things work out better for the consumer.
Right. I can't think of a more unsettled issue than the importance of broad and smooth vertical dispersion. I recently had a pair of the new KEF LS50 monitors in for an audition. Although they have much more even vertical dispersion than any of my speakers (or most any other speakers) I couldn't hear any sonic quality that I could attribute to that feature.
Right. I can't think of a more unsettled issue than the importance of broad and smooth vertical dispersion. I recently had a pair of the new KEF LS50 monitors in for an audition. Although they have much more even vertical dispersion than any of my speakers (or most any other speakers) I couldn't hear any sonic quality that I could attribute to that feature.
What do you think makes a midrange have body and warmth that isn't accounted for by frequency response/distortion? Most of the ribbon speakers don't even have the ribbon playing the midrange.Of all the ribbon/planer/AMT speakers I have heard I enjoy these brands
PhilHarmonic
Infinity
Wharfdale
Still, I love midrange with body and warmth and I just don't think Ribbons/AMT/planars can deliver in that area for me and my ears.
That is a great question. I do firmly beleive there are many things besides frequency response that can give "warmth" to the mid range.What do you think makes a midrange have body and warmth that isn't accounted for by frequency response/distortion? Most of the ribbon speakers don't even have the ribbon playing the midrange.