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812 digital sources from 1992 to 2024 ranked by THD

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Thanks your for your interest in this data table and congratulations for your effort to put your site together :).

However, I see that harmonics and THD which are clearly distinguished by the metrics (dBV or dBr) in the original tables are mixed up on your site and the quoted THD in dBV is directly converted to percentage. To my mind, this is wrong.

For instance, the translation of the quoted -104 dBV THD of the Sony CDP-XA7ES on your site is 0,00063 %, as if the 100% level from which the percentage are calculated is 0 dBV, which is 1 V RMS. But the nominal maximum output level of the Sony CDP-XA7ES when 0 dBFS is played is not 1 V RMS. It is 2 V RMS (about 6 dBV). Actually it is well documented (Stereophile or Audio reviews) that the output level is a bit higher, about 2.5 V RMS (which is about 8 dBV). Thus, the actual THD is not 104 dB under 1 V RMS output level, but 112 dB under 2.5 V RMS, which corresponds to 0.00025 % THD relative to 8 dBV.

Problem is : I was not able to compute harmonics relative to full scale output neither calculate THD in percentage for every source for which the measurements have been showed in dBV by the magazines, because the analogue output level with 0 dBFS digital input of each and every source were scarcely documented.

In conclusion, I recommend that measurements in dBV remain clearly separated from the others and stated in dBV. Otherwise, readers would be mislead.

Also, the nature of the test signal become undocumented on your site.

Perhaps the "Note" column (in which I originally only put casual information about each device) could be replace by a "Test signal" column.

May I suggest a relabeling of the title of each column on your site :

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Yes, I did have a few concerns about some of the THD figures. I had seemingly thought that I could convert the dB figure into % directly?

I do however need to get them into % because I use that to determine the row colour - so to have a mix of dB and % messes things up somewhat.

I am looking at a way to work the test signal into the data - although it's a bit tricky to match the entries, however your suggestion looks like it might be plausible.

I'll be putting more work into it over the next few days, as there are a few others things I'm not happy with.
 
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Well, there are not that much devices for which test results were showed in dBV in the printed issues. Perhaps it would be better to exclude them if it is inconvenient to show them.

I have just crosschecked a few test reports, and I have to this moment only found two devices for which the output level is known, thus enabling a translation of the THD from dBV to dBr (conservatively calculated) :

1) July 95 issue, Sony CDP-XA7ES (0 dBr = 8.3 dBV output at 0 dBFS) : thus H2 at -107 dBV becomes -115 dBr and H3 at -107 dBV becomes -115 dBr. No H4 and no H5 neither higher order harmonic. THD in percentage ref. 0 dBr : 0,00025 %. Test signal : 1 kHz, 16/44.1 PCM.

2) July 95 issue, Denon DCD-S10 (0 dBr = 7.4 dBV output at 0 dBFS) : thus H2 at -105 dBV becomes -112 dBr, H3 at -110 dBV becomes -117 dBr, H4 at -106 dBV becomes -113 dBr and H5 at -107 dBV becomes -114 dBr. Harmonic(s) greater than H5 : yes. THD in percentage ref. 0 dBr : 0,00042 %. Test signal 1 kHz, 16/44.1 PCM.

That's the best I can do with my documentary resources.
 
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1) July 95 issue, Sony CDP-XA7ES (0 dBr = 8.3 dBV output at 0 dBFS) : thus H2 at -107 dBV becomes -115 dBr and H3 at -107 dBV becomes -115 dBr. No H4 and no H5 neither higher order harmonic. THD in percentage ref. 0 dBr : 0,00025 %. Test signal : 1 kHz, 16/44.1 PCM.
I've never seen THD expressed with no actual reference in this way.

For example, it might be 0.01% at 0dB and drop to 0.0001% at -3dB - or expressed in dB it would be -80dB and -120dB respectively.

I don't see how (for a given input level) the THD can change when expressed in dBr or dBv or dBFS.

It will always be relative to input level.

I am open to correction on this however.

For absolute accuracy, we would need to specify the reference points for dBr and dBFS, and the relationship between them.

For instance, if the reference for 0 dBr is -107 dBV, then a signal at -107 dBV would be 0 dBr. However, if the reference for 0 dBr is different, you'd need to calculate the difference accordingly.

I suspect it's probably best to remove any ambiguous listings though, as you say.

I do intend to provide a link to the PDF file for absolute clarity anyway, and as I say - there is some work to be done re adding levels and so on.

Maybe I should take the site down for now...
 
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I've never seen THD expressed with no actual reference in this way.

For example, it might be 0.01% at 0dB and drop to 0.0001% at -3dB - or expressed in dB it would be -80dB and -120dB respectively.

I don't see how (for a given input level) the THD can change when expressed in dBr or dBv or dBFS.

It will always be relative to input level.

I am open to correction on this however.

Problem is, for a few devices, the published FFT is graduated in dBV with the fundamental notched out, but the actual output level is not stated (I have to look elsewhere to know them for the above mentioned Sony and Denon). All that is known is that the measures were taken at the output of a device when 0 dBFS digital test signal is put at the input (or read on a test disc).

Actually, I think that it is my table that is misleading about that. The column "THD" for the report of the actual measurement results should have been named something like "Absolute Sum of H2 to H5" instead of "THD". I think it's my mistake to have labelled it "THD". Perhaps I should have discarded this few entries instead of following my zeal to list as many devices as possible.
 
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I have removed the following entries:

Feb-10​
T+AMP 1260RUSB inBurr Brown PCM1795
-123​
-117​
-128​
-129​
yes
-115.5​
Jul-95​
TEACVRDS 20Philips TDA1547
-119​
-118​
-110​
-117​
yes
-108.3​
Sep-08​
BenchmarkDAC 1 PrePre-Proc.Analog Dev. AD1853
-109​
-123​
-114​
-131​
yes
-107.6​
Jul-95​
RotelRHDC 10Burr Brown PCM63
-113​
-115​
-109​
yes
-106.8​
Sep-08​
ApogeeRosetta 200DACAnalog Dev. AD1852
-106​
-121​
-119​
-129​
yes
-105.6​
Dec-95​
Linear AcousticCD 1Philips TDA1547
-113​
-105​
-104.3​
Apr-11​
MarantzNA 7004NetworkCirrus Logic CS4398
-107​
-115​
-108​
yes
-104​
Jul-95​
SonyCDP-XA7ESSony CXD2562
-107​
-107​
-104​
Dec-95​
MarantzCD 17Philips TDA1547
-107​
-107​
-104​
May-09​
CambridgeDacMagicDACWolfson WM8740
-106​
-109​
-115​
-113​
yes
-103.3​
Jan-12​
NaimND5 XS+ WifiBurr Brown PCM1791
-108​
-105​
-116​
-117​
yes
-102.8​
May-11​
NaimNDX+ WifiBurr Brown PCM1791
-103​
-107​
-116​
-119​
-101.3​
Jan-13​
PioneerN-50NetworkAKM AK4480
-106​
-103​
-123​
-115​
yes
-101​
Oct-12​
NaimConverter NDS Power supply XPS+ WifiBurr Brown PCM1704
-103​
-118​
-107​
-111​
yes
-100.9​
Jan-12​
LinnKlimax DS/1NetworkWolfson WM8741
-122​
-102​
-130​
-107​
yes
-100.7​
Jul-95​
DenonDCD-S10Digital inBurr Brown PCM1702
-105​
-110​
-106​
-107​
yes
-100.6​
Apr-11​
Olive06 HDNetworkBurr Brown PCM1792
-101​
-113​
-111​
-129​
yes
-100.3​
Sep-08​
M-AudioFast Track UltraDAC
-101​
-105​
-116​
-107​
yes
-98.7​
Dec-08​
Accustic ArtsTube DAC II SETubes out
-109​
-110​
-99​
-112​
yes
-98.1​
Sep-08​
TerratecDMX 6Fire USBSound c.Cirrus Logic CS42426
-106​
-99​
-121​
-113​
yes
-98​
May-09​
LavryDA 11DACAnalog Dev. AD1955
-98​
-117​
-128​
-124​
yes
-97.9​
Sep-95​
CECTL 3
-100​
-103​
-107​
yes
-97.6​
Apr-11​
Musical FidelityM1 ClicNetworkBurr Brown DSD1796
-110​
-97​
-120​
-124​
yes
-96.7​
Jan-12​
LinnKlimax DSMNetworkWolfson WM8741
-117​
-95​
-126​
-105​
yes
-94.5​
Nov-09​
LinnMajik DS DynamikNetworkWolfson WM8740
-114​
-94​
-123​
-106​
yes
-93.6​
Nov-09​
LinnAkurate DS DynamikNetworkWolfson WM8740
-112​
-94​
-122​
-106​
yes
-93.6​
Jan-13​
DenonDNP-F109NetworkAKM AK4424
-91​
-99​
-116​
-110​
yes
-90.3​
May-09​
Musical FidelityV-DACDACBurr Brown DSD1792
-96​
-92​
-105​
-101​
yes
-90​
Apr-11​
RotelRT-09NetworkWolfson WM8740
-98​
-95​
-93​
-95​
yes
-88.8​
Jan-13​
YamahaCD-N500NetworkBurr Brown PCM5121
-91​
-96​
-92​
-114​
yes
-87.7​
Nov-09​
LinnKlimax DS DynamikNetworkWolfson WM8740
-90​
-92​
-109​
-97​
yes
-87.3​
Jan-13​
RotelRT-12NetworkWolfson WM8740
-94​
-88​
-113​
-104​
yes
-86.9​
Apr-11​
MeridianSooloos MediaCore 200Network
-88​
-87​
-118​
-98​
yes
-84.2​
Feb-10​
PS AudioPerfectWaveUSB inWolfson WM8742
-81​
-96​
-119​
-107​
yes
-80.8​
May-09​
Advance AcousticMDA 503DACAnalog Dev. AD1955
-77​
-92​
-102​
-117​
yes
-76.8​
Feb-10​
AyreQB 9USB inBurr Brown DSD1796
-77​
-84​
-103​
-112​
yes
-76.2​
Dec-07​
PS AudioDL IIIConv.Burr Brown PCM1798
-76​
-86​
-106​
-104​
yes
-75.6​
Sep-08​
AqvoxUSB 2 D/ADACBurr Brown PCM1796
-77​
-76​
-104​
-93​
yes
-73.4​
Nov-11​
AyonS 3NetworkBurr Brown PCM1792
-72​
-90​
-115​
-116​
yes
-71.9​
Jun-11​
Audio ResearchDAC 8USB inBurr Brown PCM1792
-79​
-73​
-106​
-88​
yes
-71.9​
Feb-10​
Audio ResearchDAC 7USB inBurr Brown PCM1792
-88​
-71​
-110​
-102​
yes
-70.9​
Feb-13​
AtollST 100NetworkBurr Brown PCM1796
-40​
-54​
-68​
-81​
yes
-39.8​
 
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I suggest to explain the table with a short text and a brief summary, such as :

"The data are taken and calculated from FFTs obtained with an Audio Precision System One or an Audio Precision System Two at the laboratory run by the German publisher WEKA MEDIA PUBLISHING Gmbh. The measurements have all been published in the German magazines Stereoplay, Audio or Audiophile.
Links to the laboratory : https://www.connect-testlab.com/#testlab "

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An explanation of the color scale you chose to use could be added somewhere.
 
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EDIT: After some consideration, I decided to leave the site as is, and provide a note at the top of the page to explain that replicating the various comments and annotations in the PDF was proving to be somewhat difficult.

It would be extremely difficult and time consuming to add these to the site. (if someone wants to rise to this challenge and is familiar with PHP/MySQL then I'll be happy to host it...) ;)

Therefore I have recommended that for further reading, people should download the PDF file (I have provided a download link).

I am working on some ideas for the table formatting.

One problem is that there are too many columns (with some too wide) to fit all screens properly, so I'm looking at alternative ways to present the data.

My current thinking is to simply provide a hyperlink (or possibly 'speech bubble') that can describe the test parameters (+ other descriptions that need to be fitted in).

Said speech bubble can either be activate by a mouse click or rollover type action. I can't think of any other better ways at this stage.

I'm not a fully fledged web developer, this is just a sideline hobby carried over from when I used to work in IT (3rd line enterprise server support).

The project has suffered some significant 'creep' since conception lol.
 
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I update the files this January 15th, 2024 with 5 new tests (see first post) :

Test in 24 bits :
Denon DVD-5000

Tests in 16 bits :
Arcam Alpha 8 SE (2nd test of another sample)
Marantz CD 7
Musical Fidelity X-Ray
Wadia 850i

I have also corrected some typos and given some more informations (D/A converter chips identification, technical notes) whenever I can.

The new files have been uploaded in the first post.

Thanks for reading.
 
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I update the files this February 21th, 2024 with 17 new tests (see first post) :

Test in 24 bits :

Linn Akurate DS
SPL Diamond
TEAC UD-505-X

Tests in 16 bits :

Accuphase DP-77
Audiomeca Keops
Audionet ART V2
Ayre D-1
Cambridge Audio AXC35
Jadis JS1 MkIII
Kondo M100 DAC
Krell SACD Standard
Meridian 800+861
Micromega Minium
Reavon UBR-X200
Rotel CD11 Tribute
Sony SCD-555ES (in addition to a test in DSD already mentionned)
Yamaha CD-S303

I have corrected a few errors: Eternal Arts Dp DAC MkII and McIntosh MCD85 AC were tested in 24 bits and not 16, and Lumin T2 and NAD C658 were tested at 1 kHz and not 330 Hz. I have also corrected some typos and given some informations about some peculiar digital signal processing whenever I can.

The new files have been uploaded in the first post.

Thanks for reading.
 
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I update the files this March 2nd, 2024 with 4 new tests (see first post) from old issues.

Tests in 16 bits :

Accuphase DC-330
Accuphase DP-75V
dCS Verdi+Elgar plus
Sony DTC-ZA5ES

More importantly, I have finally found in an old issue a statement about the nominal level at which the test are conducted : 2 V RMS.

I have also identified some DAC chips or signal processing peculiarities previously undocumented and simplified the color grading for clarity.

The files have been uploaded in the first post.

Thanks for reading.
 
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03/21/2024 update : correction of an error about the Denon UDP 2012UD (2nd harmonic at -99 dB instead of -89 dB, hence better THD number) and news informations about some digital signal processes.
 
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03/22/2024 update : new informations about some signal processes.
 
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03/24/2024 update : new informations about some signal processes.
 
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