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aggressive but early of Dec should be ok.
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3e Audio TPA3251 TPA3255 Finished Amplifier with PFFB is coming!
I can't wait for the A7 mono to replace m'y Aiyimas 07 Max, i Hope the Akliam LC5 opamps will fit inside the opening you planned on the top off the cases to access the opamps without the need to remove the case, if this opening isn't large enough i will use wired dip8 socket extenders.
These Akliam LC5 are the opamps i prefer by far. Do you already know when preorders will be possible ? Thanks
Any news of the price for A7 stereo?
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i check the internal height is only 27mm,so can't fit this op-amp.
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under $300 with 48V/5A
Looking forward to the A5 (regardless of opamp rolling).
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Hi Amigos
We would like to share you some progress here, we are running mass production and planning release officially at 1/Dec,we expend to 5 models that cover entry level to high-end for various user.
if you are interesting to get one,kindly welcome you can take this polling for us to better under your demand,surely you will get coupon.
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some detail info posted in website: http://www.3e-audio.com/finished-amp/a5-a7-series/
We would like to share you some progress here, we are running mass production and planning release officially at 1/Dec,we expend to 5 models that cover entry level to high-end for various user.
if you are interesting to get one,kindly welcome you can take this polling for us to better under your demand,surely you will get coupon.
A5/A7 series amplifier first release poll
collect which model you are interesting for us run first production as we will try best to provide enough stock for 1st release ordering.
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some detail info posted in website: http://www.3e-audio.com/finished-amp/a5-a7-series/
I'm curious as to what makes the A5 best performance despite being less powerful. Perhaps in practical terms with efficient speakers (mine are 91db) the extra power does not matter. It seems to have slightly lower THD+N.
Emiyanez
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Nothing to add! Agree word by word
It's all about performance for 3e and their niche - and cost-wise I can understand why they are starting with external (optional) power supplies. It's a lower risk next step from their 325x boards which required users to buy cases and power supplies - many here were comparing power supplies with 3e units.
If their specs are matched by Amir, then it looks like these units might out perform the Toppings at a lower price point. Here's hoping. I'm hoping for best ever 325x amps
... and regardless of my opinion about op amps ... I reckon they will sell more units this way too by offering these optionsSo for what it's worth I agree, but commercially speaking I think 3e are being sensible with this new range (for them).
That's exactly why I would focus on A7. Swappable op-amp is a quick-win from a design and cost point of view, appealing for some customers, and much easier than designing a power supply in the cabinet (and heat dissipation). An external power supply is not a tragedy for me, even though not the best solution
No, absolutely not in the same territory.
Teh WiiM AMP Pro is an all-in-one device, streamer, pre-amp, DAC, power amp. Totally different market
The A5 (single-end) is exactly what's missing for the WiiM Ultra. Some buyers might want the higher power output of the A7, and why not? They are free to chose. But the A5 is probably all that most users need.
I will happily swap out a pair of Fosi V3 Mono for a single A5 (putting them to some other use). Internal power supply would be brilliant, but I totally see how things are easier and less risky with an external brick.
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Will the A5+ WiiM Ultra combo be any better than the WiiM Amp Pro? I doubt it, as it's essentially the same amplifier.
Take a look at the number of similar products on the market: Hypex NC122, Topping PA5 MK2, Fosi ZA3, Aiyima—most equipped with a trigger that can actually work conveniently with a streamer like the WiiM Ultra.
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a) I think it will, yes. @3eaudio did already proof that they can make better amplifier modules based on TI TPA325x chips than anybody else. It's just a matter of if they can provide a finished product at a competitive price.
b) That's not even the question. Some people buy the WiiM Amp Pro, others buy the WiiM Ultra, depending on their use case. Those who buy the Ultra do need a power amp in any case and WiiM don't make one (nor have they shown the slightest motivation to ever do it). The fact that there is also a WiiM Amp Pro doesn't matter for WiiM Ultra owners. Combining the two - though technically possible - would be utter madness!
I didn't argue against a trigger input.
Auto-on would be just as good for me, but trigger is fine, too.Most of the TPA3255 competition is lacking PFFB (the NC122 is another case, of course). But then there already is competition for each and every model just announced by 3eaudio. What sets them apart from the competition is better engineering, resulting in better measured quality (hopefully transforming into better perceived sound quality). That's the only reason people will consider their products over what's on the market, already.
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Yes, adding a trigger input and letting go of volume control would be my preferred choice, too, but it's all up to 3eaudio.
For me the A5 will be king, either way.
Emiyanez
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I agree with most of your points . I understand the @3eaudio's reasoning from the perspective of a small company and the difficulties to include an internal power supply. However, I still think it would be an additional differentiating point versus the rest.
It's great to have excellent engineering (specially if one is part of this forum) but I honestly doubt we will spot the difference when comparing to similar Topping models, so all comes down to a mix between performance, price and differentiating features.
I have an Hypex NC122MP based amp paired with a WiiM Ultra and I was looking for something more powerful. The A7 is really tempting but I personally hate power bricks. It's also riskier than the A5 because, depending on the final price, the Hypex NC252MP from Audiophonics may still be a better choice for many, similarly to what happened when Topping launched the PA7.
If the A7 comes out for something like 290€, its price point will be quite lower than the 490€ of the audiophonics NC252MP. You couple it with a wiim pro plus and you are SOTA and at full steam for roughly 500€
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Emiyanez
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Where did you get this price from? If this is the case, it's a no brainer...
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