This price joke with very coloured poor sound (had heard it on a Hifi show and even most other visitors which were at the same time in the demo room stood and usually tolerate anything got up after few minutes) had even gotten the highest points ever of a one of the biggest German magazines despite the horrible measurements:
Only USD 129.000,00
Voxativ AMPEGGIO DUE PRODUCTS
The Ampeggio Due is the flagship of the Voxativ line. It has the rare distinction of making it to the top of the AUDIO magazine reference class speaker list with 109 points. The Ampeggio Due is equipped with the Voxativ AC-XHB fieldcoil driver – nothing else. No crossover components or electronvoxativ.berlin
Surely that price is per speaker? I don't see how they could give you two boxes for that.Traditional wooden box.
2way with Seas woofer and tonegen tweeter. 300000USD
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I’ve heard these voxativ speakers (lower range) at a dutch audio show and they are indeed coloured with strange high frequencies. Just as you would expect from a full range driver.Thank god that objective audio information sources like ASR nowadays become increasingly popular which reveal the degeneration of the audiophool high end market and press...
No I haven’t. This is a thread is about the most expensive speakers. Having stringent quality control, rejecting drivers that are not within defined tolerances, would increase the cost. With accurate testing equipment, it is in no way impossible or even difficult.
Fly off the handle? Why? No, it isn’t difficult. Isn’t testing done by machine and not humans? Yes, it is expensive (although maybe not if the rejected drivers are perfectly usable elsewhere) and probably time consuming.It's not even difficult, you say? So out of a more or less gaussian spread in 4 different variables, each variable independent, all such drivers inside manufacturer's specs, how many would you think you need to test to get, oh, say, 256 drivers that are with 1/20th of the sigma of the gaussian in all parameters?
That's what you're asking. Before you fly off the handle, figure out how many drivers you have to test. You may find the answer disturbing.
WFS is an array technique. This puts additional strain on the requirements. Even if we assume that we digitally correct EVERY DRIVER of the 256, and we get them all in spec that way, you're going to find you've got a lot of drivers you won't be using. (Note, I didn't say "bad", because they aren't bad, they just aren't "close enough".)
Fly off the handle? Why? No, it isn’t difficult. Isn’t testing done by machine and not humans? Yes, it is expensive (although maybe not if the rejected drivers are perfectly usable elsewhere) and probably time consuming.
Are you saying wave field synthesis is impossible to implement?
Yes! I stood next to a bigger one at High End. I looked at the black, to the utmost perfection polished sidewall and saw my own reflection in it.View attachment 162458
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The Tidal Akira costs $215,000 and has a midrange supposedly made of pure diamond. It may not be the most expensive speaker around, but I could see myself owning a pair if I had that much money burning a hole in my pocket. It's a very reasonable looking speaker that just oozes luxury in a way the other speakers here don't. I wouldn't want Wilson's in my home regardless of how much they cost.
Toothpick is ok.Everyone has to watch this video, $1 million MBL speakers are made with toothpicks and a toaster oven
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So, nothing to offer on the technical front, just the tone police?I understand a bit clearer your “fly off the handle“ comment now. It is you projecting. I’ll just stick you on the ignore list. I like to learn, but not from bores.
Another hi tech toolToothpick is ok.
Sometimes a simple tool is the best.
However, the oven is a joke! Adhesive curing is an important process to get the desired material properties in the end. There is no excuse in not using an laboratory grade oven with adequate control of temperature profile over time.
Anyway, seems that 10k $ EQ is not important when building 1 Million $ speakers, even if it is the core process which holds the sound emitting elements in place.
It was you setting the tone. https://holoplot.com/technology/ are seemingly able to get round your limitations.In actual science we don't try to frame people with false positions, and we do expect a robust dialog. You?
It was you setting the tone. https://holoplot.com/technology/ are seemingly able to get round your limitations.
I do understand what he wrote. He says it is difficult. I just wonder why the “fly off the handle” comment. I’m just curious as to why the need to introduce that emotional element. It’s just a discussion on a forum. There is plenty in the world for me to get upset about: pollution, global warming, third world debt, etc. Not a thread about expensive speakers!You might try to read and understand what he said
"Yeah, it's possible It's just a few orders of magnitude more difficult than you seem to gather."
I do understand what he wrote. He says it is difficult. I just wonder why the “fly off the handle” comment. I’m just curious as to why the need to introduce that emotional element. It’s just a discussion on a forum. There is plenty in the world for me to get upset about: pollution, global warming, third world debt, etc. Not a thread about expensive speakers!
It was you setting the tone. https://holoplot.com/technology/ are seemingly able to get round your limitations.
Boy, you are sensitive! Aggressive posting? Asking a question about a statement! Have something to laugh about (and a nice day!).Given your aggressive posting from ground zero, well, as ye say, so shall ye be said unto.
Obviously you didn't understand what I actually said. What's more, of course, is that there is much more to WFS than being able to make a beam. And putting an interrupted set of speakers around the room isn't WFS either. It's more like what I said before, a bunch of big speakers that satisfy the perceptual requirements.
Of course, from tone policing, you went straight to professional insult. That's pretty typical of