Well wait for the public release, nobody is forcing you to use the beta...is it not stuttering like crazy? i asked them to turn MQA off, and yup only 88/96 ha ha , this is not beta, this is alpha and we are unit testing
I haven’t test mine so when I get home I will try it out.is it not stuttering like crazy? i asked them to turn MQA off, and yup only 88/96 ha ha , this is not beta, this is alpha and we are unit testing
It's easier to maintain gapless playback from Amazon Music PC app because music is resampled by the app and being played with the same sample rate.
It is true that the PC app outputs at whatever the sampling rate is selected as the max available for your sound card. At 24bit/192K, I feel it is not optimal but acceptable when resampling is taking place. Bit perfect playback (no resampling) was one of the Wiim selling points for me. What I'm saying is that, within an album, there should be no changes of the sampling rate, and gapless should work. The great majority of music available in AMHD is still at 16/44.1, so even jumping around albums should be completely seamless as far as the SPDIF stream goes. It shouldn't be so hard to queue the next track to play immediately.
import upnpclient
import streamrip
########### CHANGE ME TO WiiM Mini's IP #############
IP='192.168.68.112'
#####################################################
description_url = f"http://{IP}:49152/description.xml"
tc = streamrip.clients.TidalClient()
tc.login()
query='miles davis kind of blue'
items = tc.search(query=query,media_type="album")['items']
item= items[1]
album = tc.get(item['id'],'album')
songs = []
curtrack = 1
tracks=""
for track in album['tracks']:
#print(track)
song = {}
song["id"] = track["id"]
song["albumid"]=track["album"]["id"]
song["artistid"]=track["artist"]["id"]
song["volumeNumber"] = track['volumeNumber']
song["trackNumber"] = track['trackNumber']
song["name"] = track['title'].replace('&','&')
song["artist"] = track['artist']['name'].replace('&','&')
song["album"] = track['album']['title'].replace('&','&')
song["url"] = tc.get_file_url(track_id=track['id'],quality=2,video=False)['url'].replace('&','&')
url = track["album"]["cover"].replace('-','/')
cover_art_url = f"https://resources.tidal.com/images/{url}/1280x1280.jpg"
song["cover_art_url"] = cover_art_url
trackxml=f'<Track{curtrack}><URL>wiimu_search://{song["id"]}</URL><Source>Tidal</Source><Metadata><DIDL-Lite xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:upnp="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/upnp/" xmlns:song="www.wiimu.com/song/" xmlns:custom="www.wiimu.com/custom/" xmlns="urn:schemas-upnp-org:metadata-1-0/DIDL-Lite/"><upnp:class>object.item.audioItem.musicTrack</upnp:class><item><song:id>{song["id"]}</song:id><song:albumid>{song["albumid"]}</song:albumid><song:singerid>{song["artistid"]}</song:singerid><dc:title>{song["name"]}</dc:title><upnp:artist>{song["artist"]}</upnp:artist><upnp:album>{song["album"]}</upnp:album><upnp:albumArtURI>{song["cover_art_url"]}</upnp:albumArtURI></item></DIDL-Lite></Metadata></Track{curtrack}>'
tracks = tracks+trackxml
curtrack=curtrack+1
########################################################################################
dev = upnpclient.Device(description_url)
QUEUE_NAME=album["title"].replace('&','&')
xml = f'<?xml version="1.0"?><PlayList><ListName>{QUEUE_NAME}</ListName><ListInfo><SourceName>Tidal</SourceName><SearchUrl>https://api.tidal.com/v1/albums/{album["id"]}/tracks?countryCode=US&offset=0&limit=50</SearchUrl> <MaxTrackNumber>{album["numberOfTracks"]}</MaxTrackNumber><TrackNumber>0</TrackNumber><Quality>0</Quality><requestQuality>LOSSLESS</requestQuality></ListInfo><Tracks>{tracks}</Tracks></PlayList>'
#### Stop the WiiM Mini
dev.AVTransport.Stop(InstanceID='0')
#### Populate the WiiM Queue
dev.PlayQueue.CreateQueue(QueueContext=xml)
#### Play
dev.PlayQueue.PlayQueueWithIndex(QueueName=QUEUE_NAME,Index=0)I thought the same until I've found an album with different sample rates on AM.
Thank you @egbx ! I also wanted to reiterate for those who missed this observation in my earlier post: gapless playback works perfectly fine and as smoothly as it should be from inside WiiM Mini app when using Qobuz. Same albums fail to play without gaps when streamed from Amazon Music. Same system, same hardware, same basic firmware. So it is not the WiiM problem per se, I suspect Amazon Music API simply does not care about supporting gapless playback, hence adding it by third parties may turn out not such an easy task.
I think you are right. It doesn't sound like real gapless and if you try to move forward in a track it jumps to the next track. I need to listen more but it sound like there is a small stutter between tracks?
Some of the firmware updates turned UHD off for me, go back and check your Alexa setting and turn on UHD for all Wiim devices that you have.
I like using "One from the Vault" by Grateful Dead. Track one is the Bill Graham intro that flows right into Help on the way/Slipnot/Franklin's tower. No way to listen to that album without gapless playback.
I understand your frustration regarding gapless but you do realize you only pay a fraction of a price in contrast with other streamer. You do realize no other developer that can deliver the features and bug fix in faster rate even in comparison with expensive streamer. Let’s face the fact that no streamer is perfect but for what you pay for you got your money worth with the features that comes with it. If wiim doesn’t give you what you’re looking for then move on and use what’s works for you. To me like what’s music1969 said it was gapless.
AFAIK, "the other" streamer does not support gapless playback at all, not even for local files. And by the way, we are not talking about money here on this forum, we are talking about technical excellence. For me as a software developer, experiencing bugs in a someone else's program causes almost physical pain since I cannot fix it. I know it is sometimes considered some kind of a disorder but please take into account that we owe our current civilization to workings of many such "disordered" people.
So use the Qobuz, Tidal, etc. APIs to write your own UI for the WiiM. I'm quite happy with the one I wrote for Tidal, perfectly suited to the way I play music (jazz, an album at a time, with reviews, bios, liner notes immediately visible and updatable). Your requirements will differ, but the WiiM's UPnP interface and its built-in ability to connect to all the services, makes it quite doable. Here's one another member here wrote: https://github.com/chrishuangcf/wiim-mini-ui
Hi, thanks for your information and let me clarify it here. Can you please check the album or playlist if it has the same sample rate and bit-depth when the gapless doesn't work? When we're doing the bit-perfect output, we need output the exact same sample rate as the source. When the tracks have the different sample rate or bit-depth, we have to change the format of audio output and the audio settings. It'll introduce the gap since your SPDIF receiver needs re-lock the optical signal too due to the changed audio format/resolution. We can work-around this issue by up-sampling everything to the same resolution (like most others are doing like your PC), however, it'll break the bit perfect output and won't give you the best possible audio quality.
Sorry. It is not about money or value at all. To be able to hear an album as intended by the creators - correct timing and seamless flow between tracks included, should be basic functionality of a music playback device that plays albums. I'm surprised that this is perceived as a pedantic demand. If gapless AMHD is technically not feasible due to API constraints or any other reason, it should be simply stated by Wiim. But Wiim keeps promising gapless AMHD. That is why I am taking them at their word.
Every gapless album I've tried fails to play gaplessly. A good example is Joe Jackson's "Night and Day" (the built-in crossfades in the original make it very obvious if the playback is not gapless). This is a "normal" 16/44.1 album in AMHD. Yes I've run into a few odd albums with assorted sample rates, but those are exceptions really.
