The Wharfedale is one of the few that limits the deep bass which then allows it to get quite loud relative to other budget speakers.
The new Diamon line (12) is about to be released so this model is 2 generations old now. It would be interesting to see what gains have been realized.
https://www.wharfedale.co.uk/diamond-12-1/
Whathifi did the 5 star thing already...
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Sorry for complete stupidity in this, so why the mesh affect that so much but a metal grill don’t see major impact on those great players like focal and genelec? By the sense, if @amirm will at anytime measure a focal shape, it would be interesting to see with grill and grill off performanceThis one is more like mesh than metal grill.
Makes them perfect for a teenagers bedroom, good sound, and don't produce a boom in the room, or the rest of the house.That was a characteristic of the older Diamonds too. They didn't try to reproduce what they couldn't and concentrated on what they could do well.
How they view their competing ranges in quality is a mystery to me as well, they don't even have list prices to help.What I never understood though was the placement of the Diamond 200 series at it seems to be still shown parallel to the 11 and 12 on the Wharfedale homepage, is it supposed to be lower or higher or different tuning for different targets?
Mod it straight into the trash (bin).
Cut away the cloth and replace it with a cloth that is more open
Preference Rating
SCORE: 3.6
SCORE w/sub: 6.8
Sensitivity: 86.9dB (spec: 86dB)
Frequency response: +/-6.2: 56Hz-20kHz (+/-5.9dB 80Hz-20kHz)
All graphs/data
Haha, I think they look better with the grill. I also have the grill on my M106's because the plastic around the drivers is ugly. The new Wharfedale's look a bit better without their grills.
Yep, the chart size is just too small so now it omits some data; I’ll have to enlarge it.Hi MZKM,
Something is wrong with your preference rating graph. The Kef R3 and Revel M106 are missing and maybe some other speakers too.
I think you have too many speakers in the graph and some names got deleted.
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Given choice of look better and sound worse or look worse and sound better I'll take the latter option. I don't spend much time looking at speakers tbh.
Interesting, 225s have same issue with grille on vs off at 5khz. They also slightly roll off on the high end but are good value for less than $300 and the 220s that get as low as $180 pretty regularly in the US. Here's the 225 with grille on vs offYes, tubey. At least with the 220's big brother the 225 (6.5" woofer)
The 225 is warm sounding and tubey, it was the speaker I had a friend buy for himself. He likes a warmer sound and is a vinyl junkie with a huge collection due to working in the industry. He loves the Whafedales.
Detail folks might be served by staying away though.
I don't think I've ever seen a pair of speakers I think look better with the grilles on.
225 was praised highly in reviews. I wanted to buy it but they disappeared from sales quickly