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Star Trek: Strange New Worlds (TV)

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Since this just aired, maybe spoiler tags are in order for now? ;)
Pike has already had the experience of seeing how and when he dies in this first episode... so hopefully it doesn't go down the path you suggest.

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Hardly a spoiler the fate of Pike which is already known in the 60ties (The Menagerie) atleast in the prime time line or canon He did not die but got severe mutulated.
 
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As if Kurtzman gives one flying f*ck for canon :facepalm:

Or consistency, or logic, or basic science…
 
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Just watched the first episode. It is much better than the other current Star Trek series. Very reminiscent of the original series. Discovery is absolute garbage, Michael Burnham’s contant crying is insufferable, Picard season 1 was very good, season 2 was horrible, Lower Decks is too manic to watch, it seems paced to win Gen Z viewers with TikTok attention spans. Looking forward to watching more episodes.

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nothing beats the real picard in TNG. a great show that i didnt appreciate as a kid because it wasnt cool enough or whatever. all modern shows have been shit, including the new movies. they are all for looks, cool effects and have lacklustre morals. may sell in short term but will never last.
most remakes i have seen of any gender of movie has also been shit. netflix has also destroyed most shows they have tackled, they even ruined trailer park boys.
 

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This made me cringe. Also, why isn't it 16:9? Do black bars containing zero information with everything looking 30% smaller make it more immersive/beautiful? 4:3 would have been a better choice. Mr Hardy correctly represents my expression when watching this trailer.

I wish they'd give Star Trek to a Korean production company. I've watched a fair few Korean TV series recently and basically they've levelled up. Better acting, writing, directing. A Japanese Star Trek would be a close second choice.
 

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Korean movies and TV shows do seem pretty good. Decent acting and production and the centerpiece is the story and not effects. Many (most) stories involve a morality choice. Not a cookie cutter 100% good vs absolute 100% evil either, but more nuanced in multi-faceted.
 

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Was in a situation where I was forced to remain for 5 hrs last week. They had a TV tuned into a channel with all old TV shows. The crowd here is an older crowd anyway. It was all shows from the mid-1960's mostly 64-68. My Favorite Martian, Bewitched, Lost in Space, That Girl, and Hazel were what I saw. It then hit me having seen the new Star Trek the night before. Star Trek the original was on TV these same years and bombed. It didn't bomb with me I always liked the show. And of course it has spawned multiple other series and movies right up until several going on now.

I agree Discovery was an embarrassment, a tragedy almost a sacrilege in the history of Star Trek. I thought season one of Picard was good/ok and could get better and then there was season 2. I regret they are making a season 3. I'm hopeful for this Strange New Worlds. Seems more in line with the ethos of Star Trek over the years.
 
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To which timeline does this belong?

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I'm another who has been disappointed by both Discovery and Picard, box checkng and bad acting in the first and writing and direction in the second. To me at least they were just sad. This new one seems very promising. Looking forward to more!
 
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Just watched the first episode. It is much better than the other current Star Trek series. Very reminiscent of the original series.
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Glad you enjoyed it, I certainly did being a big fan of TOS.


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Discovery is horrible, everything about it other than the effects and visuals is appalling. Personally I can't stand Picard either. This is the first show for quite a while which seems to be consistent with Star Trek and which is following the ethos of the original and TNG, and that makes me happy.
On Korean TV, since moving to Singapore we have become big fans of Korean TV. Production values are extremely high, acting standards also, and while some of the romantic interest can be a bit cheesy the stories tend to be hugely engaging. I am a massive fan of 'Crashlanding on You' and recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it.
 

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Never saw Discovery because the Klingons we’re changed gratuitously. Sure, they were changed from TOS to The Motion Picture and beyond, but TOS had no budget to do them justice and the vaguely Mongolian villain thing went out of style.

Didn’t try Picard either. Previews looked like a product of the CW Network where the protagonists are impeccably dressed in casual layers and coiffed like they just came from a 3 hour Queer Eye makeover. I also feared the modern dramatic stylings of, “the universe is in danger, but let’s pause to discuss a threat to the characters’ romantic pairings”.

I saw Strange New Worlds ep 1, and it looks promising, even though the bridge banter seems too informal and the previews for future episodes show the Enterprise maneuvering like a fighter.

And the Navigator. She’s obviously a nod to current expectations of diversity, but the shaved side of the head and constant smirk are a bad stereotype.

Two hundred years in the future, people should be weirder. Make a character with a bizarre, but practical look that’s explained later without a reference to the 21st century audience’s cultural fads. These are crewmembers who can remodel themselves with DNA hyposprays and transporter buffers, so token LGBT stereotypes are just lazy writing.

So, in that future maybe it IS easy to be impeccably dressed and coiffed at all times. But the writers should still show why. If Captain Pike’s awakened by a red alert, he can beam to the bridge with an in-flight makeover or he can take the lift with one side of his hair mushed until Yeoman Combover shows up with a can of AquaNet.

Oh, and Spock has no foreplay with T’Pring. He didn’t even do that finger rubbing thing from ST:III. They have interstellar internet and Spock’s apparently never seen Vulcan finger porn.

Maybe my expectations are too high.
 

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Never saw Discovery because the Klingons we’re changed gratuitously. Sure, they were changed from TOS to The Motion Picture and beyond, but TOS had no budget to do them justice and the vaguely Mongolian villain thing went out of style.

Didn’t try Picard either. Previews looked like a product of the CW Network where the protagonists are impeccably dressed in casual layers and coiffed like they just came from a 3 hour Queer Eye makeover. I also feared the modern dramatic stylings of, “the universe is in danger, but let’s pause to discuss a threat to the characters’ romantic pairings”.

I saw Strange New Worlds ep 1, and it looks promising, even though the bridge banter seems too informal and the previews for future episodes show the Enterprise maneuvering like a fighter.

And the Navigator. She’s obviously a nod to current expectations of diversity, but the shaved side of the head and constant smirk are a bad stereotype.

Two hundred years in the future, people should be weirder. Make a character with a bizarre, but practical look that’s explained later without a reference to the 21st century audience’s cultural fads. These are crewmembers who can remodel themselves with DNA hyposprays and transporter buffers, so token LGBT stereotypes are just lazy writing.

So, in that future maybe it IS easy to be impeccably dressed and coiffed at all times. But the writers should still show why. If Captain Pike’s awakened by a red alert, he can beam to the bridge with an in-flight makeover or he can take the lift with one side of his hair mushed until Yeoman Combover shows up with a can of AquaNet.

Oh, and Spock has no foreplay with T’Pring. He didn’t even do that finger rubbing thing from ST:III. They have interstellar internet and Spock’s apparently never seen Vulcan finger porn.

Maybe my expectations are too high.
I sort of agree with everything you've said. I find however maybe you sound like you are looking for reasons to write it off. After one episode I'm willing to give them a little slack to see what happens. After initial posturing maybe they'll just let things play out okay.
 

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I sort of agree with everything you've said. I find however maybe you sound like you are looking for reasons to write it off.
I can stick with it. I watched the entirety of The Motion Picture Director’s Cut with all the male crew members sporting tight pajamas but no dance cups. Writers are supposed to show, not tell, but I didn’t need to know in 4K resolution whether Montgomery Scott was Jewish.
 

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How many times are they going to reboot it? I'm not investing a LICK of time in anything star trek until they learn how to stick with and finish something.

Remember me? I sure do! And I want CLOSURE!
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So you boot back up with this.. AND..... MY GOD IT WAS GREAT!
And,,,, You just throw it ALL away. GOOD JOB!
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Not having it!
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Gives you that "Hmmmm." - Know what i mean Vern?
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Ahem.
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this interview speaks volumes.
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So now they want to do it all over again. Bring on another show. Make sure it sucks. Hire new actors. And just to forget about it a few years later and leave us all hanging?
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NOPE/.
 

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leave us all hanging?
Maybe not in this case... there is already a planned season 2;
Paul Wesley, the actor who is set to play James T. Kirk in season 2.
Although Wesley is not set to appear as Kirk until Star Trek: Strange New Worlds season 2...
the Kelvin timeline
Although Pine's version of the character was of similar age to Wesley's Kirk, the reboot character existed in the Kelvin timeline in which Kirk grew up without his father due to the fact that the USS Kelvin -- the ship on which his father crewed -- was destroyed. Mount's approval of Wesley as an actor, as well as his casting for the role, offers audiences some assurance that the actor will realize this younger version of Kirk faithfully to the established Star Trek canon.


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Okay, so I finally had the chance to have a look. They definitely did something about the look. It looks much more true to the original series and the visuals are pretty sweet.

Al in all, for a pilot, it's really not too bad. After all the introductions there was really little time left for the main story, and it showed. It was shallow and rushed. I quite like most of the cast though. I hope they don't all have tragic backstories... The bar for this series is really very low. It very much shows in the rotten tomatoes reviews that people are finally glad that there is a watchable Star Trek show again. So we'll see what future episodes bring. I hope it gets better. I also hope they dial down on the canon butchering though?

But WTF is a warp bomb? Why is the Prime Directive not called "Prime Directive"? Why do they need windmills and solar panels in the future, they are at least a level II civilization? Jail? Gorn? First contact hasn't even happened yet..
 

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This might finally get me to sign up for Paramount +. The soap opera aspect of the other versions together with stories that never made sense long term killed it for me. Episodic nature of this is critical for me to watch.
Maybe wait till more of the season is out and see if there is a trial floating around.
 
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