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Sabaj A10h Review (Headphone Amplifier)

Ha, that forum donation was potentially a bit dodgy, but this is one heck of a good headphone amplifier, well done Sabaj!
Regarding the donation, just like to thank amir for his contribution and hope that the forum can continue to operate. And my sample was sent three months ago, and there is no any dodgy behavior. Thanks.
And Amir did not make any dishonest remarks. All are open and honest.
 
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Ha, that forum donation was potentially a bit dodgy, but this is one heck of a good headphone amplifier, well done Sabaj!
It could be interpreted as dodgy, but if they know the site (and I'm pretty sure they do), then you'd think they'd be pretty familiar with @amirm and his insistence on transparency.
 
They need this because they also sell a class D amp which requires RCA input. Pr1 can reach 3 VRMS according to their site.

Also sounds perfect for a Hypex MP502-based amp, which I believe needs 2.7V RMS input to reach max output.
 
I don't think it is a ground loop as such. That looks like a switched mode PSU, which means there is probably a (small value) cap from the mains side to the negative of the PSU output, which is injecting 50/60Hz onto the DC output. This is in turn shows up as noise in the audio measurements.

This^

Happens with SMPS bricks.
 
If this was powered from a linear PSU, this noise issue would not exist.

Not so much a 'linear PSU' but a correctly earthed/grounded PSU. The 'issue' is so low as to not be a problem in any case. 4-5uV, even after 29dB of typical gain is buried in the noise floor.
 
Might be a good option as volume control-preamp of active monitors. For example JBL 30XP lineup. However I would like to see also option to switch between 2-3 sources.
I thought about it but:
1) You add one more powered device in the chain.
2) Active monitors commonly have XLR or TLR input, so you'll lose the advantage of balanced connections to prevent ground loops.
 
Excellent review! Whenever I have free bucks for audio I think I'll get this next.

I have one question though: Like sir Amir said, the regular voltage for RCA port is 2V, while based on what was written this amplifier can take up to 5V through RCA connection (and it seems to work best with that voltage too?). But then, how do I achieve 5V to feed this amp if my DAC only gives out 2V like most DACs do?
 
Isn't that what a ground loop really is anyway?

A ground loop is a ground current loop which is a "leakage current" loop ?

Genuine query - I've always been confused at the differences but someone told me they are all the same thing. Not sure if it's accurate or not

My definition of a ground loop is having two grounds (which technically are the same ground) with a potential difference between them.

For example - you might have device "A" connected to a socket directly on the wall, and device "B" connected to a trailing lead from an adjacent socket. Even at such short lengths, there will be a potential difference between the two grounds, resulting in a ground loop (where noise will be induced).

EDIT: For clarity - the 'loop' as mentioned by Amir is not a loop because there are no grounds involved. However, when he grounded the device, the noise dropped, because he provided a path for the current (not ground current) to drain away.

It's likely that if one touched the 'ground' of the headphone amp and touched a true ground, a small tingle would be felt, as you are now completing the path to ground for the mains leakage via the capacitor I mentioned in my previous post.

Here's a typical example - which fortunately had an earth - but in the event of an earth fault, you will get a nasty tingle from the chassis of the device, because C12 is charged to approx. 120vDC (in the case of 240vAC mains) - if an earth fault developed, there is nowhere for that charge to go, until some unfortunate person grabs an interconnect which is connected to an earthed amplifier for example, and touches the earth of this device - you then provide a path to ground for the 120vDC, and will continue to do so until you let go or the device is switched off.

The 300vDC in the schematic below is incorrect - it's about 120v DC. - there will also be an AC mains component riding on that...

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It would seem there's not much to add to this headphone amp but balanced input.
 
Regarding the donation, just like to thank amir for his contribution and hope that the forum can continue to operate. And my sample was sent three months ago, and there is no any dodgy behavior. Thanks.
And Amir did not make any dishonest remarks. All are open and honest.
Alrighty then. I was never worried about it influencing Amir's review.
 
Might be a good option as volume control-preamp of active monitors. For example JBL 30XP lineup. However I would like to see also option to switch between 2-3 sources.
It is a HP amplifier!
 
If they can make a true preamp based on this tech, no headphone amp, proper balanced/unbalanced conversion, couple of RCA inputs one XLR, high input impedance, and one of each RCA/XLR outputs up to $250 I'm in.
 
If they can make a true preamp based on this tech, no headphone amp, proper balanced/unbalanced conversion, couple of RCA inputs one XLR, high input impedance, and one of each RCA/XLR outputs up to $250 I'm in.

Would need at least two XLR inputs. We need to get away from unbalanced interconnects. Bill Whitclock has said that for decades.
 
Would need at least two XLR inputs. We need to get away from unbalanced interconnects. Bill Whitclock has said that for decades.

Sure, the more the better, but just one set will cover 95% of use cases out there which include a balanced DACs and keep the cost lower.
 
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