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When it comes to used amps, I think those that are around 20-25 years old, that come from recognized good manufacturers, are some of the best bang for the buck amps you can buy. I can't generalize all makes and models into that fold but for example NAD and Yamaha should be counted there.
You can probably count 20-25 years as vintage, but it is possible to get hold of such an old medium powered amplifier for very little money AND if they have not been used much, the electronics have not worn out that much. That may be the case. I've seen so many ads that look more or less the same, something like this:
Since we now use SONOS (insert any wireless solution), we/I no longer need X. It hasn't been used in the last few years/decade...has been in a closet for the last...
Fully functional X for sale, bought a few decades ago but has barely been used after purchase of home theater...SONOS...wireless or...and so on.
Another reason for the low second-hand price is that 20-25 years may be seen as vintage BUT for the vintage lovers it is the 1970s that apply (maybe a bit into the 1980s). Check out the 1970s Sansui for example. It can be ridiculously high prices.
What speaks for these 1970s models is the appearance. If you are willing to pay for an interior detail, I understand that, but the performance? Here's what Restorer-John said about that:
#15 in the thread:
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The mystery of "poorly calibrated" amplifiers
I owned quite some amps througout the decades. A few years ago I bought a Pioneer SA5300 for a good price. The lightest and a really good looking amp in its series. I couldn't resist as it felt like a save from the junkyard. After a total cleanup, paintjob, revision and adding a fresh pair of...audiosciencereview.com
Anyway. Medium powered amplifiers that are around 20-25 years old from NAD and Yamaha win nowadays, in my eyes, no beauty contests, but they have good performance. So if you can live with the looks and physical size (compared to small modern class D amps) it's a good buy. In addition, these 20-25 year old amplifiers are not load dependent like many small class D amplifiers are. I think that in itself should really be weighed as a positive factor in their favor.
Two examples:
Receiver NAD C720BEE.Big for relatively few watts and ugly, but if you can live with that, it's definitely good. Receiver NAD C720BEE same amplifier section as NAD C 320BEE):
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Yamaha AX-396 is perhaps not the amp to compete in a beauty contest either, but check out the performance:
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Review and Measurements of vintage Yamaha AX-396 integrated amplifier
Review and Measurements of vintage Yamaha AX-396 integrated amplifier This review shows measurements of Yamaha AX-396 integrated amplifier, ser. no. Y399871TV, made in Malaysia. I bought this amplifier in the year 2002 and have been using it shortly. Then it was sleeping in my stock and 5...audiosciencereview.com
Funny that you mentioned C 720BEE - I happen to have one. Basically it is C 320BEE with a reciever attched. It has the same preamp modules and the same power amp section aswell. And yeah, it is also a lot uglier. But it has a sub-out.
I'm at the moment using it as a preamp in my other set with MPA-S250NC to drive a pair of Elac FS207A floorstanders and a BK Electronics XLS200 Mk2 powered subwoofer. Makes a nice combo, even though I'm in the process of looking for a proper preamp to replace C 720BEE. Upcoming Audiophonics AP310-Preamp looks interesting.
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