Moondrop May USB-C Headphones Review

[Somafunk]

Seeing as many images/figurines are in bikini's, other sexualised items of wear or posed in such a coquettish way then.....yeah, I'd say so.

 

[markanini]

S’weird how their society accepts sexualised prepubescent looking anime figure/figurines as normal, why don’t they use male icons as anime on their boxes if the gender is not an issue?, personally I find it really fucking creepy borderline pedeophilic in nature

I don't understand the desire to question other cultures art and media, or of making pedophilic assumptions. By the number western men traveling to Asia to do unmentionable things to people of young age who's place it is to question really?

 

[Somafunk]

With such an argument I'm out of thread.\

 

[Phenoez8]

Since you have both, can you give a more in-depth comparison for the Zero Red? I like how they sound but the fit is a bit annoying.

Sure! Which one are you having troubles with the fit?

 

[Phenoez8]

The half db discontinuity ... can you hear that at all? It would seem to be at the edge of audibility if you playing steady state tones right there, you might hear it.

Hello! Realistically, I don't think I can hear it at all.

 

[Phenoez8]

Moondrop CEO Herbert Zheng is just really into anime, this I think is where this all started
Tanchjim I believe are good friends with Moondrop
Truthear was started by a Moondrop engineer

Some of the other brands possibly are on it because it has been so successful with Moondrop, but I think that's where it really started with IEMs specifically, Moondrop, and their CEO, and two of the other brands that are best known for doing it are also close to Moondrop.

This is the Moondrop CEO's office:

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He goes over this here, he says he is trying to appeal to otakus. It's an interesting video, they give a view of the whole office/factory, testing, building, their development process does seem very measurement driven. It's all actually very small scale, or at least was then, I think Moondrop has expanded quite significantly in the last few years. Leiyin Audio (the channel this is on) is Moondrop's distributor and the parent company of Shenzhen Audio. But it is worth noting, this was I think originally filmed for the Chinese market and they do explicitly ask him in this, why all the anime stuff, so it's an indication that this is something Moondrop is particularly known for in China, it's not like everyone else does it.

The use of anime in marketing stuff, or as mascots, is certainly higher in general in Asia and Japan specifically. But going all-in as a company identity for global sales, that's Moondrop.

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Very well researched. I appreciate your post!

 

[Phenoez8]

I don't understand the desire to question other cultures art and media, or of making pedophilic assumptions. By the number western men traveling to Asia to do unmentionable things to people of young age who's place it is to question really?

As an Asian man who have spent decades in both eastern and western cultures, I am not at all offended by the discussion and such assumptions. In fact, I think it is important that @Somafunk and many other members in the thread are bringing the issue into view, because, unfortunately, many assumptions mentioned in the discussions are true.

Anime girls are used as loopholes to legitimize discussions on many gray area and illegal topics. There is no doubt, I repeat, no doubt that some anime work is related to pedophilic topics. I will not provide any examples here to support my argument here but they are plentiful on the internet with a simple search. Mysteriously, somehow, they are viewed as ok in anime form and treated as equal to other adult contents.

In addition, anime girls are used to legitimize Japanese militarism. For example, Kantai Collection is a series of manga, novel and games that directly portrait Imperial Japanese warships as lovable anime girls. How can such things pass public inspection and be viewed as "culture"? Imagine Germany doing the same thing to the Nazi armed forces, what type of type of public reaction would they get? I'm sure it wouldn't be the same. Regulations around Japanese anime topics need immediate attention and rework.

I am not against Anime in general. In fact, I watched many anime growing up, and I am big a fan of the Gundam series. Anime, as an artistic style, can be used to create beautiful products. This Moondorp box, for example, I think it's modest and appropriate for the headphone product.

Don't let the culture barrier also be a barrier to correct what feels wrong. And definitely don't glorify any culture more than others.

 

[markanini]

As an Asian man who have spent decades in both eastern and western cultures, I am not at all offended by the discussion and such assumptions. In fact, I think it is important that @Somafunk and many other members in the thread are bringing the issue into view, because, unfortunately, many assumptions mentioned in the discussions are true.

Anime girls are used as loopholes to legitimize discussions on many gray area and illegal topics. There is no doubt, I repeat, no doubt that some anime work is related to pedophilic topics. I will not provide any examples here to support my argument here but they are plentiful on the internet with a simple search. Mysteriously, somehow, they are viewed as ok in anime form and treated as equal to other adult contents.

In addition, anime girls are used to legitimize Japanese militarism. For example, Kantai Collection is a series of manga, novel and games that directly portrait Imperial Japanese warships as lovable anime girls. How can such things pass public inspection and be viewed as "culture"? Imagine Germany doing the same thing to the Nazi armed forces, what type of type of public reaction would they get? I'm sure it wouldn't be the same. Regulations around Japanese anime topics need immediate attention and rework.

I am not against Anime in general. In fact, I watched many anime growing up, and I am big a fan of the Gundam series. Anime, as an artistic style, can be used to create beautiful products. This Moondorp box, for example, I think it's modest and appropriate for the headphone product.

Don't let the culture barrier also be a barrier to correct what feels wrong. And definitely don't glorify any culture more than others.

There's no way that's the intention of the box art for these IEMs, that would be akin to asking people to dislike your product.

I simply wouldn't be proud of making generalizations of others culture before giving equal scrutiny to my own culture. This is nothing like the fear of causing offence. I can likewise give examples of overt sexualization of minors in Western media.

Cleary nobody here wants to deny anything bad that does happen, but displacement and false positives turning into generalizations won't help anyone, it just cheapens a serious subject which is beyond the scope of these audio products.

 

[mc.god]

At least they disguise well...

 

[sealman]

At least they disguise well...

That's 2 entire shelves of mostly classics!

 

[mc.god]

That's 2 entire shelves of mostly classics!

Not just 2 to be honest...

 

[markanini]

I made a quick extraction the Standard EQ profile in csv format, using on the tuning presets graph in post #1. For use with AutoEQ and what not. Also a Wavelet preset.

@Phenoez8 Did you make this selection of measurements through the coupler, or connect through alligator clips or similar? Just curious.

Spoiler: CSV

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