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Modern streamer pre-amp help

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Hello forum!

I'm finishing up my new project for a stereo system for my living room and I'm going crazy with the last piece of the puzzle: the streamer/DAC/pre-amp.

I have an amplifier and a pair of speakers and I am delighted with the set. I need a source to act as a streamer, DAC, and preamp.

In general I need:

- WiFi and Bluetooth. Double bluetooth would be a plus.
- Integration with TIdal, preferably with Tidal connect.
- Preamplifier.
- RJ Ethernet input.
- A good DAC.
- RCA + Digital optical outputs.
- Solid headphones would be a plus, but not essential.
- A software that works well.

I've heard good things about BluOS, which is why my list is topped by the BlueSound node N130 (2021). The truth is that it has practically everything I need.

https://www.bluesound.com/products/node/
DAC: Texas Instruments PCM5242

The review of the previous model has not been very good in this forum: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...surements-of-bluesound-node-2i-streamer.6631/

My questions for the Forum:

Speaking of Software: What do you think of BluOS? How do you see it compared to HEOS? And Yamaha MusicCast?

How would you rate the BlueSound node N130 against the Yamaha WXC-50

https://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio_visual/wireless_streaming_amplifiers/wxc-50/
DAC (two): ESS Sabre ESS9006 and PCM Burr Brown PCM5101A.

In this forum the brother of the WXC-50 has been valued positively: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...urements-of-yamaha-wxa-50-streaming-amp.7964/

What do you think of the Denon or Marantz streamers compared to the BlueSound Node N130 or the Yamaha ? (I mean the Denon DNP-800NE and Marantz NA6006. I can get these at a very competitive price.

https://www.marantz.com/nl-nl/product/network-audio-players/na6006
DAC: ESS Saber ESS9016

https://www.denon.com/nl-nl/product/network-audio-players/dnp-800ne
DAC: Texas Instruments PCM1795

Thank you very much in advance for the help,
AD.
 
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I love my Bluesound Node. Although its DAC is demonstrably mediocre, I doubt I'd hear the difference with a better outboard DAC; still considering several options there, though, including RME ADI-2 DAC and a few miniDSP options, perhaps in concert with a Topping D30Pro. These approaches would render my Adcom GFP-750 redundant, and I'd likely sell it. I think any of these DACs, all of which have volume control, would be suitable to drive my NAD C298 power amp without an intervening preamplifier.

In my opinion, the BluOS app on Android and Windows is a delight. That's a big selling point IMO. Very good integration with Qobuz, Tidal and Idagio.
 

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Here are a few quality streamer/DAC/Preamp ideas:

1. RPi4 (Moode) -> RME ADI-2 DAC -> your amp ( I use this setup with a Purifi amp and it sounds great)
Moode works well for UPnP, Airplay and Bluetooth. RME is a nice DAC/preamp option.

2. RPi4 (Moode) ->Topping D90SE -> your amp (If Bluetooth is enough you won't need RPi4)

3. Boss2 -> Topping PRE90 Preamplifier -> your amp

With these examples I stream Qobuz from my computer via UPnP to the RPi4. Obviously, you could use Bluetooth with your phone as well.
 

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Here are a few quality streamer/DAC/Preamp ideas:

1. RPi4 (Moode) -> RME ADI-2 DAC -> your amp ( I use this setup with a Purifi amp and it sounds great)
Moode works well for UPnP, Airplay and Bluetooth. RME is a nice DAC/preamp option.

2. RPi4 (Moode) ->Topping D90SE -> your amp (If Bluetooth is enough you won't need RPi4)

3. Boss2 -> Topping PRE90 Preamplifier -> your amp

With these examples I stream Qobuz from my computer via UPnP to the RPi4. Obviously, you could use Bluetooth with your phone as well.
Some nice options there.
 
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I love my Bluesound Node. Although its DAC is demonstrably mediocre, I doubt I'd hear the difference with a better outboard DAC; still considering several options there, though, including RME ADI-2 DAC and a few miniDSP options, perhaps in concert with a Topping D30Pro. These approaches would render my Adcom GFP-750 redundant, and I'd likely sell it. I think any of these DACs, all of which have volume control, would be suitable to drive my NAD C298 power amp without an intervening preamplifier.

In my opinion, the BluOS app on Android and Windows is a delight. That's a big selling point IMO. Very good integration with Qobuz, Tidal and Idagio.
Well, I think you got my point.

I also doubt I will hear a difference.

One question... When we setup a dac connected to the Streamer (let´s say it is the node), What happens with the Pre-Amp function of the Node?

So, Streamer --> DAC --> AMP (Bluesound Node --> DAC --> AMP). Where is the volume control in this configuration, does it remain in the Node?

Thanks!
 

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