Yes, same ICs for sure, only the C30 and the AV10 (even better) has the much better ones (in terms of specs).I cannot speak to the C40 but I had a C50 with external Rotel amplifier before the C30 and I believe the C50 and C40 use the same DACs?
Yes, same ICs for sure, only the C30 and the AV10 (even better) has the much better ones (in terms of specs).I cannot speak to the C40 but I had a C50 with external Rotel amplifier before the C30 and I believe the C50 and C40 use the same DACs?
What is Audyssey One?I will wait for some price discount on Dirac. I am happy with Audyssey, especially now that we have Audyssey ONE for free, which is amazing, so paying $799 seems hard to justify, having already a good calibration system (try Audyssey One!)
Yes, but it depends... Any midrange Marantz avrs can drive 4 ohm speakers depending on the users demand, that in turn, depends on a few factors including their listening habit. That is true for just about any amps, not just avrs.Seems like the amp section is not too different from the SR8015. Do you guys know if this AVR will be able to move 4 ohm speakers?
Can confirm, I glance at it often to see what sound mode is being used. And I really try to avoid bringing up the ultra-bright OSD during an HDR movie.The 2 line denon display is so much more useful .
Yeah, I'm left with just one speaker that demands more from the AVR than my others (my center, a Buchardt S400 MKII). I know these AVRs can handle it, however there are 8 other speakers asking for power during an immersive movie. I plan on amplifying it externally, but it's hard to quantify the benefit until it's hooked up.Yes, but it depends... Any midrange Marantz avrs can drive 4 ohm speakers depending on the users demand, that in turn, depends on a few factors including their listening habit. That is true for just about any amps, not just avrs.
If the user has the right speakers, listen to miderately loud spl, sitting clos such as less than say 2.5 meters, even the lower models can do the job.
Right, it absolutely depends.... Ideally, each users should estimate the voltage and current requirements to estimate the need for the individual case. It can be done using online calculators, or by calculations (better).Yeah, I'm left with just one speaker that demands more from the AVR than my others (my center, a Buchardt S400 MKII). I know these AVRs can handle it, however there are 8 other speakers asking for power during an immersive movie. I plan on amplifying it externally, but it's hard to quantify the benefit until it's hooked up.
That is true in theory, but in practice, the load will depend on the particular material.Yeah, I'm left with just one speaker that demands more from the AVR than my others (my center, a Buchardt S400 MKII). I know these AVRs can handle it, however there are 8 other speakers asking for power during an immersive movie. I plan on amplifying it externally, but it's hard to quantify the benefit until it's hooked up.
The higher models like this have a drop down door with a full display. Think of it as an extra display. Even on my older Marantz SR7012, you can turn the blue ring on/off and dim or turn off the display.<ahem> <ahem> Marantz Marketing would call it sound attenuation polymer panels.
I wish Marantz would do away with that porthole display. I know it looks snazzy, but I can't see jack squat.
That's too bad. It always reminds me of TRON.I miss the blue ring of my former 7013. The new light in the panels do almost nothing
I think you mentioned it on another thread, but I run some numbers yesterday and I think, that a Cinema 30 (or an SR8015 for that matter), considering Amir's tests, should be able to run a set of 11 Kef R meta speakers in a 20 square meters room.If one knows the speaker's sensitivity, such as 87 dB/2.83 V/m, it is easy to calculate the voltage and current, at impedance 8,6,4,or 2 ohms, for the required spl at a given distance. That way, we know the kind of amps we need to do the job.
Online calculators are great, but they typically based the calculations on 8 ohm nominal speakers, so the results may not be as conclusive, and someone would rush to say, sure you got the power but your avr may not have the current capability, sort of bs in many cases but could also be valid in many cases.
Obviously, voltage, current, power, impedance, are mathematically related, I just find using V and I are better, just my opinion. It potentially avoids arguments that might confuse the issue.
I think you mentioned it on another thread, but I run some numbers yesterday and I think, that a Cinema 30 (or an SR8015 for that matter), considering Amir's tests, should be able to run a set of 11 Kef R meta speakers in a 20 square meters room.
Most speakers would be around 2 meters away tops, so internal amp should be able to run relatively fine.
Impedance (ohms, real part of Z) | 3.2 | |||
Sensitivity | 87 dB/2.83V/m | |||
Multiples of 2.83 V applied to speaker terminals) | V (Volts) | P (Watts) | I (Amperes) | SPL (2m) |
1 | 2.83 | 2.50 | 0.88 | 81.00 |
2 | 5.66 | 10.01 | 1.77 | 87.02 |
3 | 8.49 | 22.53 | 2.65 | 90.54 |
3.5 | 9.91 | 30.66 | 3.10 | 91.88 |
4 | 11.32 | 40.04 | 3.54 | 93.04 |
4.5 | 12.74 | 50.68 | 3.98 | 94.06 |
5 | 14.15 | 62.57 | 4.42 | 94.98 |
5.5 | 15.57 | 75.71 | 4.86 | 95.81 |
6 | 16.98 | 90.10 | 5.31 | 96.56 |
6.5 | 18.40 | 105.74 | 5.75 | 97.26 |
7 | 19.81 | 122.64 | 6.19 | 97.90 |
7.5 | 21.23 | 140.78 | 6.63 | 98.50 |
8 | 22.64 | 160.18 | 7.08 | 99.06 |
8.5 | 24.06 | 180.83 | 7.52 | 99.59 |
9 | 25.47 | 202.73 | 7.96 | 100.08 |
9.5 | 26.89 | 225.88 | 8.40 | 100.55 |
10 | 28.30 | 250.28 | 8.84 | 101.00 |
10.5 | 29.72 | 275.93 | 9.29 | 101.42 |
11 | 31.13 | 302.84 | 9.73 | 101.83 |
11.5 | 32.55 | 330.99 | 10.17 | 102.21 |
12 | 33.96 | 360.40 | 10.61 | 102.58 |
12.5 | 35.38 | 391.06 | 11.05 | 102.94 |
13 | 36.79 | 422.97 | 11.50 | 103.28 |
13.5 | 38.21 | 456.13 | 11.94 | 103.61 |
14 | 39.62 | 490.55 | 12.38 | 103.92 |
14.5 | 41.04 | 526.21 | 12.82 | 104.23 |
15 | 42.45 | 563.13 | 13.27 | 104.52 |
15.5 | 43.87 | 601.29 | 13.71 | 104.81 |
16 | 45.28 | 640.71 | 14.15 | 105.08 |