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I'm beginning to think not. The HTP-1 thread does not collect an organised list of bugs and plenty of bugs seem to be known and although acknowledged not collected together.
Examples?
I'm beginning to think not. The HTP-1 thread does not collect an organised list of bugs and plenty of bugs seem to be known and although acknowledged not collected together.
I'm beginning to think not. The HTP-1 thread does not collect an organised list of bugs and plenty of bugs seem to be known and although acknowledged not collected together.
Examples?
The unique features with the JBL (Dante and Logic 16) are the primary functions left to "get right." There are a couple of issues that pop up with some folks, but they're relatively narrow (and you can find the working list that Krobar has continually updated, as noted above), and there's good reason to think that even those will get ironed out.
(perhaps an HTP-1 owner can chime in?).
One is, and asking for examples of these bugs.
DLBC doesn't set it apart?
Are you saying that there are no bugs at all, so no need for additional firmware (but for adding a new feature, or something of the like)?
Why would it? That is available on multiple products, some cheaper including the extra cost, some more expensive. The only things that make SDP unique are Logic upmixing and Dante. Neither one seems to be a currently working thing. Compared to HTP-1 it also has two big gaps in its feature set: PEQ and a really well done loudness compensation.
FWIW when the current gen launched I thought I would go JBL, mostly on the promise of Logic as much of my use is listening to upmixed 2 channel. But I waited, because Arcam’s previous generation came out of the gate terribly sorted and still had unacceptable gaps in its feature set (e.g, no support for on wall heights).
None unique to it that I am aware of or affect my enjoyment or use. All of the promised-at-launch features are actually implemented to my knowledge. There may be some DTS something that I don’t really know or care about? At any rate I’ll have a lot more to say about HTP-1 shortly. Stay tuned.
- Few users still report random reboot issues.One is, and asking for examples of these bugs.
You had said there wasn't any hardware/software that distinguished it--the JBL comes with DLBC natively, along with any future Dirac upgrades.
Comparing internet direct to msrp dealer prices isn't commensurate,
There are no bugs with the JBL that affect my enjoyment of it as well (at least, the way I use it, I don't experience the bugs listed).
I think there are a few more features the JBL (or Arcam, etc.) may have that are in its favor, but I imagine they're not deal-breakers/makers for a lot of folks (e.g., IMAX, MQA, Airplay 2, Chromecast, analogue bypass). I'm not for sure if the HTP has those features or not (a VERY quick glance on its website didn't show those as features).
So what? Others have the DLBC available too. And I discount to present value, so speculative unknown “future upgrades” are effectively worthless.
Nobody’s actually talking about purchase prices here, just features and usability.
That’s good to read! While the cynic might say “about damn time” re current owners, that’s a useful data point for people considering a new AVP now and in the future.
Wow, so much negativity. Not sure what your problem is with your Denon but I can tell you your opinion of Atmos is way off base.All I wanted was a new LCD or Oled to be happy with my Onkyo TX SR-875 THX ultra, as I didn't care for Dolby Atmos upgrading and what a mistake Dolby Atmos is such a con. Yeah flipping Onkyo wasn't happy with the new tv, cos of these blasted encoding on the HDMI it wouldn't handshake in 1080p, forcing me to buy a new AVR that I didn't care for.
Out of curiosity, why would you discount the present value of a future upgrade from Dirac being free? They do plan on releasing future updates with additional modules.
Your presumption is that promised future releases will exist and are timely, useful, compatible with current hardware, and expensive add ons for other people not on the buffet plan. I am not willing to make that many leaps of faith. I don’t even think Dirac has released a roadmap. They’re a very smart and talented firm with great ideas, but I don’t any speculative future value add from Dirac or anyone else merits discussion now.
You need to connect the probes to test signal generator that should be the scope and using a trim probe to adjust the signal. The signal will be generated by the scope and should I think produce a square wave and adjust for smoothness or focus so the edges look smooth and not out of focus. I did this with my, Rigol DS1054Z, few years with all my four probes its rather exciting when doing it. I also hardly use the scope. So it maybe one of the probes you have may need tiny adjustment then check XLR amp lead what ever it is you testing again to see if the signal is or you can Swap the probes around and if the signal is different then the probes need tiny adjustment.I was playing around a little with my SDP-55 and a cheap oscilloscope that I had acquired some time ago. Not that I could claim that really know what I am doing… I still got a couple of sine waves on the screen. When measuring the two phases of the XLR out, I noticed that one appears to carry a 10% higher voltage than the other. Wouldn‘t one expect an identical voltage or the common noise reduction of the symmetrical transmission would be unnecessarily reduced?
One phase measures 4.2 volts peak to peak, the other 4.64 volts. I also switched the probes, but the difference is not probe related.
View attachment 131484
Is this something that is normal on XLR outs?
Another question, when talking about 2v output for an asymmetrical source, the 2v mean +2v to -2v on a sine wave, i.e. 4v difference peak to peak, correct?
Thanks!
Markus
Thanks for your reply!You need to connect the probes to test signal generator that should be the scope and using a trim probe to adjust the signal. The signal will be generated by the scope and should I think produce a square wave and adjust for smoothness or focus so the edges look smooth and not out of focus. I did this with my, Rigol DS1054Z, few years with all my four probes its rather exciting when doing it. I also hardly use the scope. So it maybe one of the probes you have may need tiny adjustment then check XLR amp lead what ever it is you testing again to see if the signal is or you can Swap the probes around and if the signal is different then the probes need tiny adjustment.
Have you disabled Dirac, all trims and EQ (if any) and upmixers?[...] The 1kHz test sine signal was generated through REW and went from my Acer notebook via HDMI to the SDP-55 that has been measured.
When I do the same kind of measurement going through Dante on my Tascam ML-16D converter, all settings besides volume (had to go to 69 from 77) unchanged, both phases measure the same… 4.1v peak to peak, so it appears to be a SDP-55 only issue that the phases are not 100% identical in voltage.I was playing around a little with my SDP-55 and a cheap oscilloscope that I had acquired some time ago. Not that I could claim that really know what I am doing… I still got a couple of sine waves on the screen. When measuring the two phases of the XLR out, I noticed that one appears to carry a 10% higher voltage than the other. Wouldn‘t one expect an identical voltage or the common noise reduction of the symmetrical transmission would be unnecessarily reduced?
One phase measures 4.2 volts peak to peak, the other 4.64 volts. I also switched the probes, but the difference is not probe related.
View attachment 131484
Is this something that is normal on XLR outs?
Another question, when talking about 2v output for an asymmetrical source, the 2v mean +2v to -2v on a sine wave, i.e. 4v difference peak to peak, correct?
Thanks!
Markus