I do not understand how this is done. I appreciate if you elaborate further.
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How to remotely control my iPad for playing (Hi-Res) Lossless music
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I don’t really either. I start up my AVR and ATV. Then I use an IPad from the couch, open the Apple Music app (Just became an Apple Music suscriber a few weeks ago. Still learning the ropes) and select what I want to play. Then I click on the airplay symbol and a pull-down menu pops up. I select the ATV from my network and it plays on the AVR and my tv screen starts to show the song information and lyrics. I could very easily be mistaken about exactly what is happening here. Here are a few screenshots to illustrate what I think is happening.
You are sending audio to AppleTV via AirPlay. You are not remote controlling the AppleTV. If you power down your iPad music will stop.
The transfer is done via AirPlay, which is limited to 16/44, hence your hi-res tracked are downsampled.
This is what is generally known but I’m happy to be proven wrong.
I can check my settings, but via Homekit, I can control an AppleTV and select the Apple Music app and play music through my Denon AVR.
I’m not casting or using Airplay, rather finding the AppleTV in Homekit and using my phone as a remote.
That being said, I don’t think I’m getting any better than 48/24
I’m not casting or using Airplay, rather finding the AppleTV in Homekit and using my phone as a remote.
That being said, I don’t think I’m getting any better than 48/24
Dumdum
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Yeah that is accurate, you just use the phone as a remote, but Apple TV doesn’t support high res, and nor does airplay
That is like using the AppleTV remote though isn't it? All iPhone's now have a remote accessed via the swipe down right menu (I don't know the name of that menu.)
However, if the TV is not on you will not able to operate the AppleTV as you don't see what you are controlling.
Am I correct?
Dumdum
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That’s my take as well and is what I find
Not quite true Apple TV4k . If you go to settings > apps > Music you can select lossless ALAC up to 24-bit/48 kHz.
If you use Airplay it gets reduced to 44/16
In a nutshell: Apple Audio
iPhone, iPad, Macbook etc all support up to 24/192 via cable
Apple TX 4K supports up to 24/48 via HDMI
AirPlay 16/44
The only way to get up to 24/192 is via direct cable from iPhone, iPad, Macbook etc. As soon as you add Airplay into the mix it gets reduced to 16/44.
iPhone, iPad, Macbook etc all support up to 24/192 via cable
Apple TX 4K supports up to 24/48 via HDMI
AirPlay 16/44
The only way to get up to 24/192 is via direct cable from iPhone, iPad, Macbook etc. As soon as you add Airplay into the mix it gets reduced to 16/44.
Dumdum
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He was referring to Apple TV using the phone or iPad as a remote, not using airplay and he said he didn’t think he was getting better than 48khz/24bit, I agree and you just did too, what’s not true?
Is what you said. But it does, was my point.
Some would say 24/48 is not hi-res as DVD had been 16/48 since 1996.
Still no way to control Apple Music iOS devices from another iOS device ?
With apple classical music it is a bit painfull !
On my side, I have an old iPhone 8 connected to a usb to tosling converter then to two topping DACs by optical link.
It works perfectly well at 192/24 but I have to get up of my chair to change tracks...
With apple classical music it is a bit painfull !
On my side, I have an old iPhone 8 connected to a usb to tosling converter then to two topping DACs by optical link.
It works perfectly well at 192/24 but I have to get up of my chair to change tracks...
Dumdum
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Buy a Bluetooth remote
Actually you can do a track forward or backward from an other iOS device, macOS or Siri (using accessibility remote control) so a bluetooth remote is unworthy.
I was asking a way to remotely change a playlist, browse the library, choose new tracks, .... as spotify remote can do.
The answer could not be airplay as stated in this thread before: as soon as you do through airplay it reverts to 48/16 max
I was asking a way to remotely change a playlist, browse the library, choose new tracks, .... as spotify remote can do.
The answer could not be airplay as stated in this thread before: as soon as you do through airplay it reverts to 48/16 max
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Resurrecting this thread to see if there have been any advancements in getting Apple Music high res via my Holo May DAC with remote control from an iPhone. From the sound of this thread I’d have to cable up a used iPhone or iPad via USB to my DAC to get highest quality. But for family acceptance I need simplicity and a wired device, even with a long USB cable, is not viable. Apple TV 4K with an HDMI audio splitter to get SPDIF output into the MAY seems like best compromise assuming I can buy a small HDMI monitor to mount and use as the UI even if it is not the full high-res. The Eversolo guys seem to have a streamer that integrates full res Apple Music (think they are using AM on Android to do this) so that might be SOTA as of this moment. Kind of pricey but I need some sort of streaming box that has AM and Roon and this might work. Anything else competitive at this point in time?
You're still not going to get higher than 24/48 so why bother? Just output from your TV optical to your DAC. Use your iphone/ipad/Mac as a remote to Apple Music on Apple TV.
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