I agree they are still miles better than Genelec though.
Keith
From a «scientific» point of view, the only new information in the Hifi News review is their pointing out that the accuracy of Kii’s frequency response is +/- 2.1 dB, which is short of the producer’s specification of +/- 0.5 dB.
It's only significant if they did the measurement exactly the same way as the manufacturer. This is speakers, not amps or DACs- move the mike a centimeter and the response will change. Change the gating and the waterfall will look totally different. And obviously, change the room and all bets are off.
Without a good set of off axis measurements, the graphs in that article are just decorative.
My point is: The stated FR +/- 0.5 dB always looked suspicious. Have you ever seen speakers that are +/- 0.5 dB?
Customers almost certainly do not need the new bass module, unless they have a huge space and/or want to play deafeningly loudly.My point is: The stated FR +/- 0.5 dB always looked suspicious. Have you ever seen speakers that are +/- 0.5 dB?
When your claim is of the extraordinary kind, you should expect extraordinary evidence. To me, it seems like Kii made several claims on their product that after a while don’t pass closer scrutiny.
Still, Kii Three is a good speaker. It’s just their way of communicating that grabs my attention.
Remember, Kii and Keith have previously made the claim that Kii Three is a «big» speaker, comparable to bigger membrane and box designs. Kii Three is all you’ll ever need, it was claimed. Then, all of a sudden, comes the BXT extension that triples the size of the original Kii package. At a price which makes the Kii a €25.000 package.
After working in a field where bullshit claims are the norm for over two decades, my BS radar my be a bit more sensitive than what is good. Still, there’s been lots of BS surrounding Kii and I am surprised Keith thinks ASR is a good place to promote BS.
Lastly: Kii is a good speaker. Just keep the BS out.
Customers almost certainly do not need the new bass module, unless they have a huge space and/or want to play deafeningly loudly.
The Kii THREE is a superb loudspeaker there is no need for BS, the chap who has the 8260’s has ordered a pair.
Keith
The magazines are never going to completely endorse any ‘system’ loudspeaker, it would be cutting their own advertising throats.
Keith
I think there was a particular reason, you know @svart-hvitt is a genelec enthusiast so you thought you’d poke him.No particular reason, just had the opportunity this week to compare ( in the same room) the Kiis against the 8260’s , the improvement is obvious.
Keith
Only if they are reviewing kit your selling, else all reviews are suspect lolBut we are still supposed to trust their reviews?
The Kii is a superb loudspeaker as it is, measuring flat to 20Hz in my room, you can see the measurements on my website, I will get the BXT module and report hopefully this autumn.
As it is the Kii and Dutch&Dutch 8Cs are head and shoulders better than any other loudspeaker I have heard.
Keith
Only if they are reviewing kit your selling, else all reviews are suspect lol
They state...Would you happen to know or have a reference to how Kii did that measurement?
Frequency response: ± 0,5dB - 25 kHz, 20Hz -6dB (*)
(*) IEC60268-5 Paragraphe 20.6