Why take a chance? The same people probably designed them.Hey has anyone done a review here of the h390 or h590? I’m considering the h390 because of the reviews I’ve heard, but this review of the lesser amp gives me pause.
Why take a chance? The same people probably designed them.Hey has anyone done a review here of the h390 or h590? I’m considering the h390 because of the reviews I’ve heard, but this review of the lesser amp gives me pause.
And then you'll get 82dB SINAD for the DAC... which is still in the red range.@AnderS52
Turn it down until it stops clipping, and re-take it.
The H95 is built to a price while the H390 and H590 are competing/attempting to compete with top name components. I seriously doubt the h95 dac and the dac's in the 390 or 590 are the same. My H360 made my salon 1 sound glorious, replacing a parasound A21/Krell pre, but I would always try with the intended speakers.Hey has anyone done a review here of the h390 or h590? I’m considering the h390 because of the reviews I’ve heard, but this review of the lesser amp gives me pause.
The H390 seems to use AK4493, also found the the €£$ 130 Topping E30 (Gen 1). For a $€£ 6k product one would expect better. The H95 has a lower quality AK4396, still capable of 100 SINAD. The actual performance of Hegels implementation is up to 30 to 40 dB worse however. That is just beyond sub-par.The H95 is built to a price while the H390 and H590 are competing/attempting to compete with top name components. I seriously doubt the h95 dac and the dac's in the 390 or 590 are the same. My H360 made my salon 1 sound glorious, replacing a parasound A21/Krell pre, but I would always try with the intended speakers.
One used to read this a lot, ‘built down to a price’ but it just doesn’t wash, it seems to me their are good designers who really take the trouble over their products and pretty poor designers, relative to the retail the actual electronics are not expensive.The H95 is built to a price while the H390 and H590 are competing/attempting to compete with top name components. I seriously doubt the h95 dac and the dac's in the 390 or 590 are the same. My H360 made my salon 1 sound glorious, replacing a parasound A21/Krell pre, but I would always try with the intended speakers.
I had an H390 for less than 1 week... I wasn't impressed at what it offered for the price. We all know about the measurements of the smaller brother, and can make some assumptions for the bigger one as well. My personal issues were with very poor quality control of the unit; toslink showed up broken and not working, and volume knob was crooked (bent encoder shaft?)! Even beyond those issues, I felt it should cost half or less than what it currently does. If I were looking at that price class, I'd look at NAD.Hey has anyone done a review here of the h390 or h590? I’m considering the h390 because of the reviews I’ve heard, but this review of the lesser amp gives me pause.
Continuous power (<1% THD, 8/4ohm) | 270W / 490W |
Dynamic power (<1% THD, 8/4/2/1ohm) | 279W / 544W / 1.04kW / 1.16kW |
Output impedance (20Hz–20kHz) | 0.014–0.048ohm (951ohm, pre) |
Freq. resp. (20Hz–20kHz/100kHz) | +0.0 to –0.15dB/–1.6dB |
Digital jitter (S/PDIF at 48kHz/96kHz) | 10psec / 5psec |
A-wtd S/N ratio (re. 0dBW/0dBFs) | 90.5dB (Analogue) / 105.6dB (Dig) |
Dist. (20Hz-20kHz; 0dBW/–20dBFs) | 0.0025–0.01%/0.0001–0.0005% |
Power consumption (idle/rated o/p) | 67W / 830W (27W 'Eco' mode) |
Dimensions (WHD) / Weight | 430x150x380mm / 22kg |
Price | £4900 |
Honestly man it's not worth it. You dont have to be a master objectivist and be a solely about flawless measurements. Just look in the review index, anything that has a -100 db sinad or near that will probably out perform that junk amp. It's way too over priced.Hey has anyone done a review here of the h390 or h590? I’m considering the h390 because of the reviews I’ve heard, but this review of the lesser amp gives me pause.
Nobody said any of this. Hifi news measures both distortion and noise, so effectively the SINAD is in the data.Sinad is the only measurement to consider when shopping for an integrated amp yet HIFI news doesn't even bother to check it? interesting.
I have stated on here multiple times, I own an amp that has a sinad of higher than -40db; it's absolutely trash in our books. It's not the best thing to listen too, but it's not as bad as you might imagine.Sinad is the only measurement to consider when shopping for an integrated amp yet HIFI news doesn't even bother to check it? interesting.
Isn't the Topping LA90 an A/B design ?It's actually quite sad, seems like besides the benchmark none of the amps 95-120 are class A/B.
Hey has anyone done a review here of the h390 or h590? I’m considering the h390 because of the reviews I’ve heard, but this review of the lesser amp gives me pause.
If you come to an audio science forum, at least make some effort to understand what it is about. Otherwise your just here to troll.I don't know what sinad is, I was repeating another poster that said all hegel products are junk because the h95 sinad isn't in the top 40. I have my own method for deciding how my money's spent.
I wouldn't worry. The amp tested here is a lifestyle product at the bottom of their range and has a few issues (performance via coax out, overdriving the pre-out to drive a sub) but as usual the amp testing envelop of ASR rewards inaudible numbers and graph hygiene both as a proxy for ‘good engineering’ and as a type of engineering fetish.
If you want a nice traditional class AB amp that will drive passive speakers (especially if they have the usual impedance dips) and you like the aesthetics/sonics/haptics of the Hegels, then you will quite likely be happy, especially with the two models you mention.
If the lure of nice numbers threatens to override that enjoyment, get something else. Ditto if you are more budget-constrained. Class D architecture has some advantages and can also be had at lower $/watt. I don’t think you’ll actually hear any performance benefits however (same for DAC alternatives too).