Unfortunately, I couldn't find any measurements for this. I would be interested in a comparison with https://allo.com/sparky/digione-signature.html
Unfortunately, I couldn't find any measurements for this. I would be interested in a comparison with https://allo.com/sparky/digione-signature.html
What measurements do you need? It gives bit perfect AES output, it just works as expected. No need to spend 6x as much.Unfortunately, I couldn't find any measurements for this. I would be interested in a comparison with https://allo.com/sparky/digione-signature.html
I would imagine measuring this direction https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...measurements-of-allo-digione-rpi-s-pdif.5418/ and then comparing the two devices to get the bestWhat measurements do you need? It gives bit perfect AES output, it just works as expected. No need to spend 6x as much.
I think the fact that these do not offer AES should be a bigger criterion. The used chip in the cheaper board is excellent as is the clock (a temperature compensated crystal).I would imagine measuring this direction https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...measurements-of-allo-digione-rpi-s-pdif.5418/ and then comparing the two devices to get the best
I have clipped my 8351B's, but only at reference levels running the bass 20dB hot. This was with subwoofers crossed over at 120Hz. Unless you are playing electronic music with crazy bass you aren't likely to run into the 8351B's limits.Still on the fence on getting an 8361a or 8651b to replace my kef meta for my home theater set up
- Room is 20x14x9 feet and is treated
- Metas are driven using 200wpc monolith amp
- Listening distance is about 10ft at mlp, 14ft at second row
- Subs are 4x monolith 15"
- 40/20/20/20 use case is movies/tv/gaming /music. Prob listening at - 10db at loudest (70db with 90-95db peak)
Thinking of starting with just replacing the center, 8361 would be nice for the headroom but maybe minimal gains over the 8351b in this space
Still not sure if I could tell the diff between any of the genelacs and the meta level matched and under 90db
Thoughts?
If you’re crossing over below 80Hz or 70hz to the subs, 8361 and 8351 will both have ear destroying headroom. In my opinion 8361 only makes sense if you will keep low bass routed to the mains.Still on the fence on getting an 8361a or 8651b to replace my kef meta for my home theater set up
- Room is 20x14x9 feet and is treated
- Metas are driven using 200wpc monolith amp
- Listening distance is about 10ft at mlp, 14ft at second row
- Subs are 4x monolith 15"
- 40/20/20/20 use case is movies/tv/gaming /music. Prob listening at - 10db at loudest (70db with 90-95db peak)
Thinking of starting with just replacing the center, 8361 would be nice for the headroom but maybe minimal gains over the 8351b in this space
Still not sure if I could tell the diff between any of the genelacs and the meta level matched and under 90db
Thoughts?
You can use subs and run 8361 full range. It really depends on how you are doing bass management, but that would be a scenario where it has an advantage with the greater power handling.Is there any advantage to the 8361 over 8351 if you're also using subs?
Yes. SPL between the sub crossover and the 320Hz midrange crossover. The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest. 113dB or whatever at 500Hz doesn't mean a lot if your woofers are crapping out at 150Hz.Is there any advantage to the 8361 over 8351 if you're also using subs?
Yes. SPL between the sub crossover and the 320Hz midrange crossover. The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest. 113dB or whatever at 500Hz doesn't mean a lot if your woofers are crapping out at 150Hz.
I don't disagree with you in general, there is a midbass output advantage for the 8361A over the 8351B. But 50-100hz is the loudest range on average. Which is one reason I prefer a 100hz crossover. Assuming that, you're correct that midbass is the weakest. Without subs, it's low bass of course. Both of these things are true for basically every size-limited speaker, even traditionally designed ones with relatively large woofers.The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest.
Could you please elaborate concerning "The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest" ?
I don’t get this both the 51B and 61B should be limited by thermal limits instead of excursion at 150Hz.Yes. SPL between the sub crossover and the 320Hz midrange crossover. The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest and, incidentally, where loud music is the loudest. 113dB or whatever at 500Hz doesn't mean a lot if your woofers are crapping out at 150Hz.
I would take it with a grain of salt unless you’re a DJ that plays at very large venues.Could you please elaborate concerning "The misbass region is where Genelec monitors are the weakest" ?
I don't disagree with you in general, there is a midbass output advantage for the 8361A over the 8351B. But 50-100hz is the loudest range on average. Which is one reason I prefer a 100hz crossover. Assuming that, you're correct that midbass is the weakest. Without subs, it's low bass of course. Both of these things are true for basically every size-limited speaker, even traditionally designed ones with relatively large woofers.
I would take it with a grain of salt unless you’re a DJ that plays at very large venues.
and you think one has more output than the other with a subwoofer?There are other use cases, like home theater sitting around 3 meters away.
and you think one has more output than the other with a subwoofer?