Did you do it?It's very difficult to measure transient response hence why no one does it
Can you post your measurements?
Did you do it?It's very difficult to measure transient response hence why no one does it
As I wrote above such problem if exist, they would be visible also in the frequency response, to quote Dr. Toole:Transient response and resonance are different things. You would need to measure the transient response of both speakers to see which performed better in this area.
The loudspeaker is, or should be, fully characterized by anechoic measurements. These include the time domain (transients). If the recording is an accurate rendering of the music, good loudspeakers will reproduce the music with sustained tones and transients intact. Loudspeaker transducers are minimum-phase devices so a flat smooth anechoic frequency response indicates a flawless transient response (within the frequency range of each transducer).
Obviously, as otherwise you would know that above is just the step response (which is included / can be calculated from the complex frequency response) and that such typical overshoot corresponds mainly to the bass region and is a very poor way to visualise loudspeaker issues.But I never spent time with the math side of it like transfer functions and such.
His final comment and conclusion about the mids after trying them the final time "They probably are a little hot through the upper mids compared to many monitors".
OK this is the last post...
Where's the logic here, do you have the measurements/data of the transient response to say one performs better in this area over other speakers?
Seeing as we're in the domain of guessing, I'd bet that your problems come from poor set-up, as none of the features that you imagine relate to my set-up and experience.
Either way, I hope you are happy with your speakers and let's see if this is in fact your "last post"!.
Enjoy
Answered in post #2.There is thread here:
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Measuring transient response?
I was wondering how it would be possible to measure the transient response of a loudspeaker using a measurement microphone (e.g. UMIK-1) and a software (e.g. REW) Here is the idea I came up with: I have generated 1ms sine tones at various frequencies at a certain volume and the same at a volume...www.audiosciencereview.com
And he also answers your question about not understanding the math."Now you are wasting your time. The transient or impulse response can be calculated from the FR sweep in REW."
The comment from @Blumlein 88 about square waves as one way of demonstrating that talking the frequency response measurement also gets you the transient response.View attachment 422183
I know what it is. But I never spent time with the math side of it like transfer functions and such.
"Ray was using the square wave to show you get the same thing either way."
We get itThose measuments were a placement issue and were resolved so not sure why you keep citing them.
I get it, this is the 8361a thread and in this universe nothing can be better. Not kefs not, the beryllium midrange in the tad's or anything.
Even without the data you already know.
Those measuments were a placement issue and were resolved so not sure why you keep citing them.
I get it, this is the 8361a thread and in this universe nothing can be better. Not kefs not, the beryllium midrange in the tad's or anything.
Even without the data you already know.
Probably the biggest advantage is GLM.would bring me any advantages?
And the salesman / pro sound manager, Chris (my hero) said wait a minute, “this may be your lotto day, I’ll be back in a minute. A few minutes later he rolls out a dolly and says Genelec had sent this pair for an audition for a client of the music store on Terminal street. In 10 minutes VIOLA. 8361’s hooked up to a $75000 mixing board with a computer to search whatever song I wanted. He said enjoy and left me to listen.
Well the set up was not under my control and I did ask if they were set to neutral, so the manager doubled checked and said all dip switches were set to off position.And what were your listening impressions? Do share ...
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