Genelec 8361A Review (Powered Monitor)

[Behrelec 37]

Muddywaters

Should we wait for them?
I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[Mort]

If aliens land, I have my Genelec 8010 go bag. I'm actually taking them on a van camping trip next week.

 

[Muddywaters]

Muddywaters

Should we wait for them?
I wouldn't hold my breath.

Don’t hold your breath.

Where I live the battery operated vehicles are fire hazards when hurricane surge shows up.

 

[Esprit]

Why this video? Because of that "little box" she talks about towards the end:

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[Mort]

A pair of 8361a's and 7830a 15" subwoofer. MLP and monitors are 1.8M apart, toed in. Room is 3.2M square.

GLM room correction and DSP is effective and restrained. I prefer the GLM subwoofer integration to any I've tried. I wish I could add more than a 3db base shelf. I add 2 db more with the Wiim. It can't fix the biggest null in the room and I didn't expect it to.

Could I get by with 8351b and 7370? I bought these all used but that's what I would get if buying 'new'.

The 8361a sells at a larger discount so it's more affordable on the used market. Same with the 7380a.

Note the G ones used with the computer for video calls.

 

[rubicon99]

Hey!
Ive got the 8361A's together with GLM. Its butter. But Im finding the violins and pianos slightly harsh on most recordings when listening to classical music (my music taste is all over the place, and they sound sublime in other genres). Like too skreechy.
Im thinking a simple high shelf filter in GLM should do the trick, but what cut off frequency? I dont want to over do it.
Right now ive got -1.5dB at 5000Hz. But do i need to go lower on the frequency or lower on the Gain, or both?

Any advice?

 

[Soniclife]

Hey!
Ive got the 8361A's together with GLM. Its butter. But Im finding the violins and pianos slightly harsh on most recordings when listening to classical music (my music taste is all over the place, and they sound sublime in other genres). Like too skreechy.
Im thinking a simple high shelf filter in GLM should do the trick, but what cut off frequency? I dont want to over do it.
Right now ive got -1.5dB at 5000Hz. But do i need to go lower on the frequency or lower on the Gain, or both?

Any advice?

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What distance is that measurement, and how far do you listen? There isn't the normal high end roll for far field listening.

 

[rubicon99]

What distance is that measurement, and how far do you listen? There isn't the normal high end roll for far field listening.

Speakers 2m apart. My ears are 2m from each speaker.

 

[ahofer]

What cables are you using?

Wut?

Im thinking a simple high shelf filter in GLM should do the trick, but what cut off frequency? I dont want to over do it.
Right now ive got -1.5dB at 5000Hz. But do i need to go lower on the frequency or lower on the Gain, or both?

A simple shelf might not be sufficient. You probably want a curve that rolls off with more slope. A series of shelf increments would do it.

Dig that old-timey string sound, eh?

 

[G|force]

Instead of shelves try using a HF tilt preset in the Sound Character Profiler.

 

[tmtomh]

Instead of shelves try using a HF tilt preset in the Sound Character Profiler.

My understanding is that the tilt presets in Sound Character Profiler are just a high shelf or a high shelf-low shelf combo. For example the "6kHz -2dB" preset is equivalent to just manually creating a shelf filter with those parameters.

 

[G|force]

I didn't know that but it makes sense. Thanks!

 

[dj94030]

Unfortunately glm is pretty limited on what filters you can do. $8k speakers dont have enough processing power in 2025 lol.

 

[tmtomh]

Unfortunately glm is pretty limited on what filters you can do. $8k speakers dont have enough processing power in 2025 lol.

What are you talking about? GLM allows an almost unlimited number of filters. The two shelves are just the simplified option in the Sound Character Profiler, which applies to the entire system. But for each speaker, GLM allows incredibly fine-grained EQ, if for whatever reason you wish to do that manually.

 

[dj94030]

What are you talking about? GLM allows an almost unlimited number of filters. The two shelves are just the simplified option in the Sound Character Profiler, which applies to the entire system. But for each speaker, GLM allows incredibly fine-grained EQ, if for whatever reason you wish to do that manually.

ok now do a harman house curve in glm

 

[HiMu]

ok now do a harman house curve in glm

That can be done in a few different ways, with or without a sub. What the heck?

 

[Curvature]

ok now do a harman house curve in glm

By curve you mean this fairly forgiving range of results? Tinker away until you get the sound you want. I dial in tilts by using a combination of shelves and very low Q filters.

 

[Mort]

You can't easily get a curve the same way you can with DiracLive or Audyssey. You have only the tilts and custom peq both of which are really annoying because you can't save them. At least the tilt is easy to do the entry.

 

[dj94030]

You can't easily get a curve the same way you can with DiracLive or Audyssey. You have only the tilts and custom peq both of which are really annoying because you can't save them. At least the tilt is easy to do the entry.

yes that.

 

[Sokel]

Harman curve is not supposed to be forced, a speaker either responses like that or it's not.
That curve is only a result.

Tilting highs is just a preference, what's far superior is correcting the anechoic response to taste locally.
If it was sounding harsh to me I would start by knocking -off 4kHz to 6kHz couple of dB and go from there (that range gives me round headache if pronounced and/or combined with thin midbass, so... )