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Dont believe so. I can practically knot them with the band in place and if you extend it fully, you can even bow the top of the hoop back on itself and doesnt change shape.
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Dan Clark Audio AEON RT Review (closed headphone)
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Dont believe so. I can practically knot them with the band in place and if you extend it fully, you can even bow the top of the hoop back on itself and doesnt change shape.
Wow, weird! Pity the clamping the force cannot be changed by simply working it in the opposite direction.
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Yup. I suspect the clamping force would be similar for any user , but I personally like a more relaxed fit . Like I say though, you do get used to it. If it was on ear, not over it might be construed as torture though.
If this would be true it would be a really serious problem. I just bought an Aeon 2 Noire and i find that information pretty troubling/unsettling. The threads that I have found about this, rather say that an existing tinnitus got worse (temporarily), but that the tinnitus is newly developed I have not found so far. Of course, I don't want to take any risk of getting tinnitus from the type of headphones I have now.
I wonder what @Dan Clark says about possible hearing damage? Is the risk higher with closed back planars than with open dynamic headphones?
My intuition tells me it's the high clamping pressure more than anything else, as I had a similar problem (which I was able to solve) with my Hifiman HE4XX (like I posted earlier). But if you've got a narrow head then I would think this would be less of a problem. You could also explore planar headphones that have headphone bands that you can "work in the opposite direction" to loosen the headband (like my HE4XX). It seems like the Dan Clark is not readily adjustable for clamping force.
I use 3M peltor often because kids and they sometimes worsen my tinnitus because the clamping pressure is very high, but I fall asleep with them witch is not ideal. Most planars have higher pressure fit and therefore maybe not the best choice if you suffer from tinnitus, IMO.
There is a nylon screw in the Aeon 2s that when removed reduces the clamping pressure. Dan Clark also offered to send me a softer pad to alleviate the clamping for pressure.
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I have noticed with my RT after a month or so of use, the clamp isn't as noticeable. Possibly a combination of me getting used to and the pads softening. I put some far larger pads on my ether CX and they are so comfy but of course can't get cheap generic donuts for the aeon.
Is there a scientific explanation for this? The eardrum is moved/deflected by the fluctuating air pressure inside the ear canal, and that's how we sense sound. So how can planar headphones exert more pressure than dynamic without the ear sensing a higher sound volume? It doesn't make physical sense to me.
Closed back headphones should be safer than open. The main reason for using closed back is to insulate from external noise. If you are using open back headphones in a noisy environment, the tendency is to crank up the volume to drown out the noise, which is more damaging to your ears.
Be advised though that different pads will cause a different frequency response, which would make EQ's based on Amir's or other peoples measurements (like Oratory's for instance) invalid.
EDIT: conversely you could also argue that different clamping pressures (caused by people working the headphone bands) could also cause different frequency responses by different levels of pad compression....however I would generally think that if clamping pressure feels too high & is causing issues then you probably have a bigger than average head so clamping pressure probably higher than the measurement suggests, so still best to work that headband to get it comfortable. Also, needless to say, if clamping pressure is causing discomfort then you gotta do something about it regardless of measurements.
Awesome, very neat properties! Heat up that headphone and bend it - tough times!
solderdude
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I would only heat up the headband not the entire headphone. 
There lies the rub!I would only heat up the headband not the entire headphone.
Perhaps a boiling water bath would work, just dipping the headband and then bending it whilst hot & holding the bend until it cools?I would only heat up the headband not the entire headphone.
(Although I can foresee some peoples ending up with some funky shaped headbands!)
solderdude
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I have tried the AEONs and Ethers (also Nitinol) and to me the clamping force was excellent, one of the few headphones I did not feel the need to adjust clamping force.
jannek
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I have absolutely no problem with clamping force of my Aeons. I don't have a head like a basketball I have to admit. And - by the way - my eardrums keep feeling fine.
Wait stop until you don't know for sure. That makes some materials fragile and stiffer. Those flexible metals are something i would not heat up.
Btw we are in a forum with science in it's name whilst also discussing a hypothesis that could be easily measured and proven, but there is nothing supporting that claim aside from some other spitballing in forums. I known confirmation bias plus gut feels and repetition is enough these days to get people moving, but at least try to be better than that. just a little bit.
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