MasterMech
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Just to clarify all measurements & EQ filters are with no filter pads installed?
Yes "A set of filter pads are supplied that get mounted inside to control the level of high frequencies. A white pad with one notch comes installed. I took it out as it attenuates too much of the high frequencies and likely causes some slight comb filtering as well"Just to clarify all measurements & EQ filters are with no filter pads installed?
Which cans have you heard that exhibit those properties?What do you guys think about dynamics/slam/impact/punch in these cans. I had the aeon 2 noire for a week. I liked almost everything about it, though it obvious drawbacks in those mentioned qualities. Of course this is more obvious with more bass forward, enegetic and aggressive music. It always made me turn up the volume to compesate for the lack in dynamics but obviously that does not really work out. And no, I didn't underpower them. Used a Rme adi 2 dac. EQing the bass up made it more weighty but the delivery just stayed soft and pillowy. I didn't use any front dampening filters either.
My HD800, my momentum 3 wireless, and the focal celestee (although it's a turd for different reasons) sound noticeable more dynamic. I did EQ all to harman target to have a more fair comparison. I'm curious what measurements are needed to show show those properties.Which cans have you heard that exhibit those properties?
I have the hd800 and a couple of DCA, not the noire /aeon 2 closed. There is definitely a difference in how the senns present music to the DCA. To me it is the soundstage that is more obviously open in the senns. I don't really recognise "slam" etc as descriptors but would acknowledge I perceive music differently through them.My HD800, my momentum 3 wireless, and the focal celestee (although it's a turd for different reasons) sound noticeable more dynamic. I did EQ all to harman target to have a more fair comparison. I'm curious what measurements are needed to show show those properties.
What do you guys think about dynamics/slam/impact/punch in these cans. I had the aeon 2 noire for a week. I liked almost everything about it, though it obvious drawbacks in those mentioned qualities. Of course this is more obvious with more bass forward, enegetic and aggressive music. It always made me turn up the volume to compesate for the lack in dynamics but obviously that does not really work out. And no, I didn't underpower them. Used a Rme adi 2 dac. EQing the bass up made it more weighty but the delivery just stayed soft and pillowy. I didn't use any front dampening filters either.
As I intend to follow the same path as you did (shipment from USA to France) can you please tell me which shipment´s issues did you encountered?Hi, my AEONs - which I ordered after the review here - arrived yesterday after a 2 week's shipping nightmare from the US to France. But it was well worth the wait: as Amir, I have settled to listening without pads + a similar EQ than the one proposed by Amir but with even more bass in the lowest frequencies + standard loudness setting on my ADI -2 FS. The result is phantastic for my liking! In this setup these cans are as good as my Focal Clears but different (more detail and actually smoother). I would even consider them to be better were it not for the 'bass slam' that the Clears can produce. I also like the built quality and the comfort. Conclusion: thanks ASR - thanks Amir (and thanks also to RME - because without the options on the ADI 2 I would not be able to get the most out of my headphones).
Without pads?? Guess you mean without the filter inserts ?Hi, my AEONs - which I ordered after the review here - arrived yesterday after a 2 week's shipping nightmare from the US to France. But it was well worth the wait: as Amir, I have settled to listening without pads + a similar EQ than the one proposed by Amir but with even more bass in the lowest frequencies + standard loudness setting on my ADI -2 FS. The result is phantastic for my liking! In this setup these cans are as good as my Focal Clears but different (more detail and actually smoother). I would even consider them to be better were it not for the 'bass slam' that the Clears can produce. I also like the built quality and the comfort. Conclusion: thanks ASR - thanks Amir (and thanks also to RME - because without the options on the ADI 2 I would not be able to get the most out of my headphones).
Oh, forgot to say that these are my everyday headphones.
Hey Amir,View attachment 106154
As you see, the deep bass response almost matches our preference down to 20 Hz. Removal of the white pad causes the right side to exceed our target (without it, it matched it more or less). So what is really left to address is the shortfall in the 2 to 5 kHz. This is where "openness" of sound comes from. Dan says he doesn't think complying with the target generates what he hears live. I agree with him on that, but disagree on desirability of it in the arsenal of the audiophile. I like that energy there! And indeed, get it with speakers that have flat on axis response in that region. Anyway, we will test this in the equalization section.
Plotting the deviation from our target, this time with both channels showing, shows us the compliance:
View attachment 106157
As I intend to follow the same path as you did (shipment from USA to France) can you please tell me which shipment´s issues did you encountered?
Hi, my AEONs - which I ordered after the review here - arrived yesterday after a 2 week's shipping nightmare from the US to France. But it was well worth the wait: as Amir, I have settled to listening without pads + a similar EQ than the one proposed by Amir but with even more bass in the lowest frequencies + standard loudness setting on my ADI -2 FS. The result is phantastic for my liking! In this setup these cans are as good as my Focal Clears but different (more detail and actually smoother). I would even consider them to be better were it not for the 'bass slam' that the Clears can produce. I also like the built quality and the comfort. Conclusion: thanks ASR - thanks Amir (and thanks also to RME - because without the options on the ADI 2 I would not be able to get the most out of my headphones).
Oh wow didn't thomann stocked these!!If these cost the same to import to UK/EU as it costs for a brand new Noire from Thomann which would be the better option?
Oh wow didn't thomann stocked these!!
https://www.thomann.de/be/dan_clark_audio_aeon_2_noire.htm
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