Liya
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Define 'small space' pleaseBut for small spaces and used close to walls, they haven't at all! The overbuild in engineering is an ATC 'thing' and that won't change...
Define 'small space' pleaseBut for small spaces and used close to walls, they haven't at all! The overbuild in engineering is an ATC 'thing' and that won't change...
The pro ones are generally pretty good, if rather short on low end sans subs. The SCM25s with the ports closed and crossed with subs is pretty great, to be honest.This. ATCs are super common and have kind of a halo of quality among lots of studio folks. One room I’ve worked in swapped out ADAMs for ATC, and another was feeling tempted to replace Focals. It changes things to have better info.
Yeah, I just actually had deleted my post moments after posting it when I noticed how old the thread was and that I was replying to a years earlier phase of discussion!The pro ones are generally pretty good, if rather short on low end sans subs. The SCM25s with the ports closed and crossed with subs is pretty great, to be honest.
Well, it doesnt matter how old the thread is. The content is still relevant.Yeah, I just actually had deleted my post moments after posting it when I noticed how old the thread was and that I was replying to a years earlier phase of discussion!
The room I used the 20's passive in (19 not so different) was around 15' x 10' with speakers a hand's breadth from the wall behind. The 20 ASL Pro's with definite similar upper mid rise (bit a bass lift control to partly counteract it in mine) were used firing down a 24' x 11' room.Define 'small space' please
I used passive 19s v2 (with ATC SIA2 integrated) in 10' x 20' akward English living room (chimney breast, patio door, bay window, heavily furnished - two sofas, dinning table, four chairs, pictures on the walls, curtains, rugs, coffee table... we just had to fit it all in that small space casue kitchen was tiny) the mids were shouty and bass (as close to back wall as I could) boomy (but never as much boomy as any other speaker in the same position: passive Dali, Kef passive and active, active Yamaha), if I would move the speakers out of the back wall the bass was gone.The room I used the 20's passive in (19 not so different) was around 15' x 10' with speakers a hand's breadth from the wall behind. The 20 ASL Pro's with definite similar upper mid rise (bit a bass lift control to partly counteract it in mine) were used firing down a 24' x 11' room.
Yes. Can we trust UMIK microphone? Can I trust my ears? UMIK and my ears tell me SCM11s are mids heavy.Have you heard SCM11's? I think they're rather more neutrally balanced but still with a tighter bass...
I've only heard the ATC 11's in one room sadly and this room can have bass problems with the floor-standing 'other brands' they sell. I thought they sounded fine with a well judged bass to mid balance (more than the 19A I heard in that room on another occasion). if you have the power available to deliver the +2db bass, why not if it suits your room and your hearing It's one reason why I got kind-of excited by the great overall results of the Linton Heritage as a more widely available alternative.Yes. Can we trust UMIK microphone? Can I trust my ears? UMIK and my ears tell me SCM11s are mids heavy.
Avi DM10 are very similar. DM12 are same with just a little more bass and big lift in the mids.
Man, I cannot escape the mids heavy loudspeakers.
But now I have the RME so I applied -3.5db at 890kHz Q 0.5, some loundness compensation and +2db bass shelf from 150Hz and the DM12 sound ok.
I could say exactly the same about my K&H O300D.One thing that seems to be overlooked when it comes to speakers is the dynamic capability, that's something my ATC SCM40 does better than any other similar-sized speakers I've heard or owned. When listening to something like Stravinsky's "The Firebird" suite it's almost brutal how these speakers go from the quiet parts to the sudden "attack bursts", seemingly without a breath.
Other things I have noticed with these speakers are how pure piano notes sound and how natural voices sound. Instruments are "meatier" with a more three-dimensional body to them than what I've noticed with other speakers I've heard. AC/DC's guitars and good drum recordings have never sounded better.
Sorry for the above audiophile type of descriptions.
Nice!I could say exactly the same about my K&H O300D.
If I didn’t misread it changed to a v shaped curve instead?I just found measurements for the ATC SCM19v2.
It looks like that it measures better than v1. There are no exaggerated mids anymore.ATC SCM19 | Review Lab Evaluation - AVMENTOR.net
ATC SCM19, Review Lab Evaluation, Read Interesting Stories and Reviews about Audio, Hi-Fi, 2-channel, stereo, and multichannel technologieswww.avmentor.net
What do you think?
Ashley James was simply copying ATC all the way but never stopped moaning how bad ATC was and how great Avi is. Thing is, Avi sound is extremely similar to ATC.Re. AVI - my ADM9.1s show a remarkably similar mid range bump.
FWIW.
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