I guess I missed in the #1 post where it says topping only? Besides that, the thread is pretty inactive and this is an audio community about sharing info, helping other etc. Didn’t think a simple question would bother you so. Thanks man
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solderdude
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Took the Burson question to PM.
MAB
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I think Jimbob was just giving some context, no dig meant.
John Yang is a Topping employee and was previously a common contributor here at ASR. The thread was to discuss their products.
These online threads always meander somewhat, so mods help keep them on topic.
Cheers, and welcome to ASR by the way!
antcollinet
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Have a look in the category of sub-forum most related to your question to see if there is a thread discussing the same gear, or a similar topic.
But you are also welcome to start a new thread (ideally in the appropriate subforum) with your question. **This is often the best approach anyway, as a single question can get lost in a long pre-existing thread.
**EDIT : The only exceptions is if your question is along the lines of "why measurements..." or "you say all dacs sound the same but...." then there are long threads that have been set up to specifically stop these types of questions cluttering up the forum, and should be used. If new threads are created on these types of topics, the mods will usually merge them into the "Collector" threads.
Speaking of the DM7, did many report hearing significantly audible pops or thumps when powering on/off your amps, as had dartinbout; post 48? https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/topping-dm7-owners-thread.35849/page-3
I'm especially concerned-more like scared of hearing damage (!)-as my speakers at least 93db SPL/w/m, I also want to add a center speaker. And my room is less than 2900 cu ft.
If DM7 users here do not get these transients, why do you suppose dartinbout does? But if you did get these thumps did you find one or more solutions to prevent them?
antcollinet
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Don't expect an answer here, @JohnYang1997 has not been active on the forum since November last year.
That's unfortunate. Funny thing; this makes the first time at practically any other such forum that another DM7-and Okto DAC 8 Pro-user didn't reply anytime I asked a question about them.
Galliardist
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He's still reading things here, at least.
Still, it may be worth an admin person here contacting him to see if this thread still serves a purpose or should be closed?
Apologies for asking questions which perhaps I should have known the answers to.
antcollinet
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No need to aplogise. Nothing wrong with your question in the context of this thread. It's just if @JohnYang1997 is no longer posting, this thread has lost its purpose, and just misleads people into thinking they can get help in it.
I'd suggest reposting your question as a new thread in the DAC subforum, as other owners are then more likely to see it and try to answer you.
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As for the transients, I have adopted a protocol which involves turning off the 2 amps connected, prior to turning off the DM7. I also don't reboot the connected PC while the system is running. I use a series of wifi connected power strips to organize the protocol. This eliminates the transients from my daily use.
I am (and I assume "we are") rather disappointed and/or depressed not only knowing the (several) reliability issues with amplifier(s) from TOPPING but also it looks no more response from @JohnYang1997 on this thread.
As I recently wrote here, in HiFi audio scene, I believe not only the initial (at first-glance) measured (and heard) performances but also durability/robustness, parts selections, repair parts availability, maintenance/repair/overhaul service availability, warranty, support system/network, etc., all for "long-year" time span, are really critical (more important?) for our choice(s) of amplifier(s).
As I recently wrote here, in HiFi audio scene, I believe not only the initial (at first-glance) measured (and heard) performances but also durability/robustness, parts selections, repair parts availability, maintenance/repair/overhaul service availability, warranty, support system/network, etc., all for "long-year" time span, are really critical (more important?) for our choice(s) of amplifier(s).
also please refer to the bottom half of this my post #67 on a remote thread.
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restorer-john
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Last seen today- that says it all. Hiding in plain sight, not answering questions in his own "ask me questions" thread.
What a joke.
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Galliardist
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I agree, but assume that @JohnYang1997 is busy in part addressing reliability in the recent and upcoming Topping products.
I don't own any Topping components, but would be willing to in future if I can buy them via a local dealer and with Australian consumer law protections. For a number of Topping and SMSL products, there is a stockist fifteen minutes' walk from where I work, which would cover it.
Where you buy (or the support you can get for a used product in your area) is as important as what you buy. In that regard, I've been disappointed by some "high end" companies and their distributors in Australia, and not just for audio: products with five and ten year warranties in other countries that have a much shorter stated warranty in Australia, often shorter than that warrantied by consumer law. You end up having to use legal means to get, say, an oven fixed in Australia when in the EU it would still be in the warranty period. And they charge us more for the privilege as well.
Simaudio products at least were one of these in audio - ten year warranty across most of the planet, but dropped to five years in Australia when they changed distributors (and prices went through the roof at the same time). Five years is still longer than most, but I know people who bought their stuff because a US review stated the ten years. Hopefully they never need it.
The same thing does happen in other countries as well, so before you buy, ask about the local warranty, and be aware of your legal rights.
Just for our possible interest, please also refer to this thread "Mark Levinson or Accuphase" and my post #5 thereof; I well understand that TOPPING amps are not on the same "stage and/or category" of Mark Levinson and Accuphase, though.
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For the past half year or so I mostly only checked on the PM from time to time. I have been extremely busy with new products from audio interfaces to guitar pedals and studio monitors. A new representative is here on the forum. This doesn't mean I won't come and comment here every now and then.
O' nice. It's important to keep communications channels open.
OP
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Previous issues have been addressed and for some time now there hasn't been reports of issues regarding amplifiers. If there's new issues regarding Topping products you can post them here.
An official representative(which I wasn't) is here @TOPPING. She will come to the forum every day and hopefully give replies to questions.
Nice to hear so, but at least to me, your absence "For the past half year or so" was too long and disappointing in cosideration of the title of this thread "Ask me questions".
In any way, I do hope we would be able to keep our smooth and useful communication here on this thread (otherwise, you would be better to tentatively close this thread by yourself, not by the ASR moderator(s).
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