Ascilab C6B & F6B Launched – Ask Questions, Share Feedback

[Hiten]

@AsciLab
Is there any future plan to make affordable* three way speakers. Basically goal being few hz more low frequency and less intermodulation distortion ? Generally a dome tweeter, ~3 inch mid range and ~8 inch woofer.

*Affordability is subjective but still would like to know.

 

[AsciLab]

@AsciLab
Is there any future plan to make affordable* three way speakers. Basically goal being few hz more low frequency and less intermodulation distortion ? Generally a dome tweeter, ~3 inch mid range and ~8 inch woofer.

*Affordability is subjective but still would like to know.

For now we’re planning something.
Soon we’ll open.

Anyway, using 3” midrange 3 way speaker is always in my mind. Someday I’ll try it.

 

[Astoneroad]

For now we’re planning something.
Anyway, using 3” midrange 3 way speaker is always in my mind. Someday I’ll try it.

Put me on the waiting list. Perhaps a survey thread to test the level of enthusiasm from the members with a vote? There's been a dozen or more inquiries over the various AsciLab threads... including from me.

 

[Emiyanez]

@AsciLab
Is there any future plan to make affordable* three way speakers. Basically goal being few hz more low frequency and less intermodulation distortion ? Generally a dome tweeter, ~3 inch mid range and ~8 inch woofer.

*Affordability is subjective but still would like to know.

I will take the chance to move a bit off -topic. What would be the advantage of a 3-way of similar size (purely naive question)? @AsciLab stated that the F6B & C6B cannot be compared to the KEF R3 but frequency response (including low frequencies) and dispersion are on par. Would dispersion be the main forecasted improvement? Thanks!

 

[Hiten]

I will take the chance to move a bit off -topic. What would be the advantage of a 3-way of similar size (purely naive question)? @AsciLab stated that the F6B & C6B cannot be compared to the KEF R3 but frequency response (including low frequencies) and dispersion are on par. Would dispersion be the main forecasted improvement? Thanks!

I am also newbie. But some advantage would be as stated little more low end and lower intermodulation distortion. Probably if correct drivers are selected better overall distortion (But might increase the cost).* As for KEF R3 (I like them) but are expensive.
*Everything depends on drivers selected and the designer.
Regards.

 

[AsciLab]

I will take the chance to move a bit off -topic. What would be the advantage of a 3-way of similar size (purely naive question)? @AsciLab stated that the F6B & C6B cannot be compared to the KEF R3 but frequency response (including low frequencies) and dispersion are on par. Would dispersion be the main forecasted improvement? Thanks!

It is all about IMD. A woofer producing bass to high frequency can’t be out of IMD. When the woofer moves long excursion, mid to high frequency suffers from various problem. Like Bl,Le modulation and inevitable Doppler distortion(rather benign though).
Proper 3 way design makes less excursion of midrange. So the advantage is there.

By the way, Our 2 way design has quite low crossover design, so our MD has better result than the other typical crossover design speakers. But can’t be low as good 3 way design.

 

[DearSX]

@AsciLab Will the C6C and C5C be 3 way speakers? Do they have higher sensitivity? Any use of dedicated midrange in any AsciLab speakers?

 

[amarsicola]

For now we’re planning something.
Soon we’ll open.

Anyway, using 3” midrange 3 way speaker is always in my mind. Someday I’ll try it.

I see that those "base extenders" in your official roadmap are pretty expensive, and i expect that once you connect them to the main speaker, the passive radiators in the main speakers become a useless feature (and a useless cost) which is not economically (and environmentally) friendly, and they could eventually interact with what the base extender is doing.
On the opposite side, just adding two or three proper 8 inches woofers to the C6B and removing the passive radiator may result in a much more budget friendly solution (plus, small detail, you literally destroy the market)

 

[Matt_Holland]

Just a quick correction you might want to implement on your website and marketing materials: the correct English term for a smooth, non-reflective finish is “matte” and not “matt.” Therefore, describing a finish as “Matt white” makes it seem like a shade of white preferred by a person named Matt. “Matte white” is probably what you meant to say. I am not trying to be pedantic. Rather, using the word “Matt” looks like a typo or misspelling and could reflect negatively on the brand, however minor.

Bit late to the party on this, but in the UK it is more common to use “Matt” when referring to paint.

 

[DearSX]

I see that those "base extenders" in your official roadmap are pretty expensive, and i expect that once you connect them to the main speaker, the passive radiators in the main speakers become a useless feature (and a useless cost) which is not economically (and environmentally) friendly, and they could eventually interact with what the base extender is doing.
On the opposite side, just adding two or three proper 8 inches woofers to the C6B and removing the passive radiator may result in a much more budget friendly solution (plus, small detail, you literally destroy the market)

I think the F6C ($3000) or C5C at $3,500 is the closest to this. Comes with 2 woofers plus Hypex amp. I think the DSP and amp are needed to keep boxes smaller and control subs as desired.

 

[ry_]

I see that those "base extenders" in your official roadmap are pretty expensive, and i expect that once you connect them to the main speaker, the passive radiators in the main speakers become a useless feature (and a useless cost) which is not economically (and environmentally) friendly, and they could eventually interact with what the base extender is doing.
On the opposite side, just adding two or three proper 8 inches woofers to the C6B and removing the passive radiator may result in a much more budget friendly solution (plus, small detail, you literally destroy the market)

The passive radiator doesn’t become useless, it’s still doing its job in supporting the woofer by reinforcing the frequencies it was designed for. The extension module picks up the frequencies below that point.

 

[Salt]

The passive radiator doesn’t become useless, it’s still doing its job in supporting the woofer by reinforcing the frequencies it was designed for. The extension module picks up the frequencies below that point.

Not, if the sub is crossed around 200 Hz (or 80 for HT). In that constellation a closed box would be more preferable/ the passive membrane not very much in use, since it's resonance frequency is below that.

 

[Billy Budapest]

Bit late to the party on this, but in the UK it is more common to use “Matt” when referring to paint.

View attachment 457987

Right. I issued a mea culpa to Ascilab after learning this!

 

[jEDGEc0m]

In most countries, customs duties and taxes are calculated based on the total of the product price and shipping cost. Therefore, the final amount of tax to be paid will be the same.

However, since tax policies vary by country, we recommend checking with the relevant authorities in your country for the most accurate information.

Hi Ascilab, and thank you for your responsiveness here, and the amazing engineering of you and the team!

It's probably only a pretty small market, but have you anything to say about shipping them to Australia? Has it been done, and is it seeming to be progressing without complication? Completely understand if this does not warrant a response - it's gotta be pretty busy over there at Ascilab I imagine!

(ps: are stock levels of C6B and/or F6B ok for fairly prompt despatch? (in the more standard colours))

 

[jEDGEc0m]

(Probably only mere hours after I'd posted that, seems everything changed to listing as "Sold Out" on their web shop).

Hope the quality control is good and consistent for ongoing units. and also that they don't run themselves into the ground! Some work cultures are probably far too extreme.

 

[Billy Budapest]

Really? Well OK! It is “matte” in the U.S. (paint finishes are flat, matte, eggshell, satin, semi-gloss, and gloss) but I guess given the UK spelling, then “matt” works too.

@AsciLab - in case you didn’t see the above, then mea culpa, I stand corrected!

 

[renaudrenaud]

@AsciLab Thank you for your products. Is there any way to see your products in China I mean a way to buy?

 

[Cogito]

Call me "Old School", but I'd be more excited if they were offered in real wood veneers (Olive burl perhaps?). Painted cabinets just don't do it for me.

 

[Ohlsdorfer]

Is it possible to order C6B speakers with postal delivery to Belarus? Or only by delivery services (UPS, DHL, etc.)? (They do not deliver to Belarus)

 

[Salt]

Maybe this as carrier, but don't know