64 Audio tia Trió IEM Review

[Blorg]

@Zerviscos mine, the nozzle doesn't go past the end of the tips, doesn't look like it does on yours either though. It's not a problem though even if it does go past, it does on the ER4XR. Theoretically if anything it might reduce resonances and push the insertion peak higher, if it allows for deeper insertion. It doesn't cause me any physical issue with it contacting my ear anyway. I have the Z1R as well and get a good deep fit with that with Spring Tips as well, but this is a much easier fit than that.

Is it not really bad advertising that an IEM can't be used with the included accessories, and have a good tuning, for a $2400?

Tips are personal, they relate to the IEM as well but more to your individual ear. So it's possible you find a tip that works particularly well for your ear, but this doesn't mean it's necessarily going to for someone else. I replace the tips on basically everything, more to Spring Tips than anything else although I have quite a variety, some work better on some IEMs than others. Tips aren't expensive either, here Spring Tips are $2/pair. It's rarely a case of "can't be used" though, it's more this aftermarket tip is better for my preference.

This IEM is not bang on Harman in-ear... however that is not my limit as to what I'd consider a "good tuning". This has a pretty good tuning for my preferences. It's certainly not perfect, but neither is Harman in-ear, for me. It's not even what I'd choose if I had to pick and could only have one IEM, I'd take the Monarch Mk2 in that case which is closer to Harman (but not quite, it's better than Harman IMO). For "all rounder" one IEM I'd also pick the Moondrop Variations or Blessing 2 Dusk over this, both of which are closer to Harman as well as being much cheaper. But for when I'm in the mood for this, I find it very enjoyable. I don't think it's a huge step up from something much cheaper, I don't even think it's a better all rounder than many IEMs that are much cheaper. There are huge diminishing returns. But I enjoy it all the same.

 

[markanini]

@Blorg
I'm sure a high end IEM manufacturer could include a wide enough selection of tips to fit a majority of individuals. This would also ensure the integrity of the tuning, which the tips play a significant part in. If I didn't believe in the capabilities of the manufacturer to tune the product I wouldn't think too much about swapping out stock tips for third party ones, I have in the past for that reason.

I'm assuming most objectivists following the topic of IEMs knows that Harman IE target isn't as good a benchmark as the over-ear target, it's been discussed in other threads.

 

[FrantzM]

Hi

Human behavior is most interesting. The advent of the cell phones didn't spell the doom of watches. (Nor did electronics watches cause mechanical watches to disappear .. or digital music to do the same to vinyl or ...). I wouldn't , thus , think that luxury and so-called "High-End" IEM will disappear. For those who adhere to Science, however, I tend to think the game is over:. The TCZ and its ilk , have redefined the IEM landscape. Over $200.oo for an IME, would be a no-go for most here.... Whether they "like" the Harman curves or not. FWIW, I am very at ease with the Harman curves.. headphones, IEM, speaker... These sound very good to me.

Peace.

 

[markanini]

Hi

Human behavior is most interesting. The advent of the cell phones didn't spell the doom of watches. (Nor did electronics watches cause mechanical watches to disappear .. or digital music to do the same to vinyl or ...). I wouldn't , thus , think that luxury and so-called "High-End" IEM will disappear. For those who adhere to Science, however, I tend to think the game is over:. The TCZ and its ilk , have redefined the IEM landscape. Over $200.oo for an IME, would be a no-go for most here.... Whether they "like" the Harman curves or not. FWIW, I am very at ease with the Harman curves.. headphones, IEM, speaker... These sound very good to me.

Peace.

It's conditioning. A high end IEM consumer started with a reasonable IEM purchase years ago, when the segment consisted of many justifiably poor performers. A collective choir of enthusiasts/hobbyists, almost all on an indulgence spending high, mutually encouraging others to spend just a little more to achieve audio nirvana, and it goes on for years, the consumer gets basically groomed into thinking that they get good value from a four figure investment. It's too persuasive for some people not to get drawn into it when everyone is enabling and encouraging, giving attention to costly purchases, like it's giving out halloween candy. It's a feeling of popularity that you wished you had in middle school.