Exactly. Otherwise you couldn't have stuff like e.g. EQ, RC and even subwoofer management applied to the analog inputs.
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I would think this would open the door to further processing the analog phono signal, like the Waxwing phono preamp if WIIM choose to add some additional software features specifically for the phono section.
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Or better, WiiM licenses the software from Parks Audio and Waxwing is fully embedded within all WiiM's that have analog input.
Since not everyone uses, I'd be totally fine paying for a firmware upgrade that provides this.
Anyone here tried Apple TV hdmi into Wiim ultra for Apple Music lossless.
It certainly is the most convenient way to get Apple Music lossless into hifi.
Plus the added benefit of eq in digital domain before the dac too.
Is there still lag for digital inputs into the Wiim. It would be more noticeable for video processing.
It certainly is the most convenient way to get Apple Music lossless into hifi.
Plus the added benefit of eq in digital domain before the dac too.
Is there still lag for digital inputs into the Wiim. It would be more noticeable for video processing.
Are you sure is Roon putting upsampling? because i remember reading about CXNv2 and his forced upsampling mode, which by Cambridge's engineers was his "secret sauce"...
Very unlikely, I guess. WiiM's (or rather Linkplay's) core competency is mainly software development, based on an open source stack. I don't see why they would want to sell on software licences. I also don't see why Parks Audio would even want to license to a 3rd party what is the result of their core competency and USP.
Also, I'm not fully convinced that WiiM are handling the phono input in exactly the same way. They do have a gain switch for MC vs. MM, so that is probably really done in software (no mention of input impedance). But I assume that the gain needed for MM cartridges is really created using a physical amplification stage. Otherwise WiiM could easily make the phono input switchable to a second line level input and that would definitely be a thing to sell on.
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The WiiM Ultra's HDMI input is an ARC input, whereas the ATV's HDMI is just regular HDMI.
Therefore,
ATV->HDMI->WiiM Ultra would not work.What would work is
ATV->HDMI->TV/AVR->HDMI(ARC)->WiiM UltraThis is the intended way to use the WiiM Ultra's HDMI input, however, the TV or AVR will most likely resample the audio to 48kHz before sending it out via ARC.
For best signal fidelity out of the ATV, I would do
ATV->HDMI->HDMI Audio Extractor->Toslink->WiiM Ultra, plus ATV->HDMI->HDMI Audio Extractor->HDMI->TV for the image.Here's a test of one such HDMI extractor:
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These tend to have rather crummy DACs built-in, but if you use the digital outputs, they're bit-perfect.
See the last graph (DAC is bypassed).
Yes, it may.ir it may just not. Either way you cannot directly connect the Apple TV to the WiiM Ultra through HDMI, so ...
Or more precisely: You can connect them using an HDMI cable but there will be no sound.
now that another colleague posted on Roon... it is impossible to turn off this processing.
No. Unlikely. And not sure what you’re asking re quoting 24/192 in relation to Bluetooth.
Edit: you might want to consider something like this to use with your Ultra (or any WiiM device for that matter). I believe there are cheaper alternatives.
https://forum.wiimhome.com/threads/bluetooth-headphones-with-pro-plus.4229/post-69408
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The max resolution of the Ultra is 24/192 for all its digital outputs. I’m not au fait with DSD in any great detail, but I believe a previous answer in this thread said WiiM will convert them to PCM on output, so again that’ll be up to 24/192.
I ask for a suggestion.
Wiim Ultra has finally arrived in Italy, it will arrive at the weekend.
I have read about several people who are trying it and they say that it sounds worse than the Pro Plus.
The sound is colder / metallic on high frequencies, and it is more tiring ... which I do not like at all!
This thing leaves me with many doubts, I thought it was an improvement compared to the Pro Plus (or even the same as I really liked the sound).
They say it sounds bad even using the Digital output therefore using an external Dac, in my case the one from the Rega Elicit MK5 amplifier.
As said I will receive it in a few days, but I do not like this thing.
Can you confirm this thing or are they all personal "rumors" without any foundation?
It seems strange to me that even with an external Dac it sounds "Metallic" on high frequencies ...
Thanks in advance.
Wiim Ultra has finally arrived in Italy, it will arrive at the weekend.
I have read about several people who are trying it and they say that it sounds worse than the Pro Plus.
The sound is colder / metallic on high frequencies, and it is more tiring ... which I do not like at all!
This thing leaves me with many doubts, I thought it was an improvement compared to the Pro Plus (or even the same as I really liked the sound).
They say it sounds bad even using the Digital output therefore using an external Dac, in my case the one from the Rega Elicit MK5 amplifier.
As said I will receive it in a few days, but I do not like this thing.
Can you confirm this thing or are they all personal "rumors" without any foundation?
It seems strange to me that even with an external Dac it sounds "Metallic" on high frequencies ...
Thanks in advance.
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I don’t know where you’ve heard that.
I’m on the forums here and at the WiiM forums, and I don’t think I can remember anyone saying that at all.
One thing I've learned after more than 45 years of listening to music... there's only one formula: get it and test it. Your ears will tell you.
I got tired of not buying things because I heard someone say it was no good, or that it was this or that. I couldn't resist and bought it, and I changed my mind. And another thing: if you received it, you didn't like it. I believe that in Italy, as in most countries, you have a certain amount of time to return it.
Then tell me if you really agree with what you've read.
I agree..
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