Are you sure you aren't hearing harmonics of this tone?MIDI 0, C-1 at 8 Hz is here, in my ears, clearly heard and perceived as a continuous sound for 187 ticks and is majestic.
Are you sure you aren't hearing harmonics of this tone?MIDI 0, C-1 at 8 Hz is here, in my ears, clearly heard and perceived as a continuous sound for 187 ticks and is majestic.
Tell me what should I do to remove those, if any.Are you sure you aren't hearing harmonics of this tone?
The driver produces its own harmonics.Tell me what should I do to remove those, if any.
Play a single sine wave ? On my way...
Done with a new instrument playing a single sine wave.
Tested with the lowest right hand pair of silicone pads, the largest with the smallest bore.
C0 at 16 Hz clearly heard but beating a bit.
C-1 still heard also at 8 Hz, but need moving volume from 12 to 3, and felt as a single very short burst.
Back to the pipe organ, I enjoy it immensely.
When tested with the black pads the sound is too bright and lacks sub-bass. C0 barely heard, C-1 not at all.
Well, that is it.The driver produces its own harmonics.
I'm not sure spending money is the main issue for me. For my headphones I don't always listen to them on one device. So it's hard to have an EQ on every device you listen to when they are moved from laptop, desktop, phone, airplane multimedia, other amps, etc. Yes that would be ideal but i suspect headphones / IEM could be made close enough that you wouldn't need EQ. Speakers are much harder to do that with due to size and room and EQ becomes more necessary. And when my family members ask what to buy it's hard to recommend something that needs EQ.Adjust the bass with EQ and you won't have to spend any money.
Just received my pair and tried them out. Fit great. Clarity great. Tone great. Bass.... well just a tad too much. Others feel that way too. But for $50 there is not much to complain about. These will be my new airplane earphones which I take for travel. It's sometimes nice to hear different speakers when they are still good but different because I enjoy small changes in the music I listen to. Kind of as one would go to a live show the sound is not what was released on the cd But when the bass is too great, it just keeps reminding you when you listen to your songs. What's out there which is just as good but with less bass?
I find the sound very much dependant upon the pads being used.Same... I bought the AKG HPs that follows the harman target to compare and I hear noticeably more bass with the IEMs compared to the headphones or any speakers system. Might be due to how my hears work. I EQed it out and it makes them great.
I plugged them in a RME ADI-2 Pro fs I'm using for headphones listening.
Woaw. Now we are speaking !
Nice, really.
Not perfect, but damn' good.
I think a single IEM brings as many different ones as the number of pads you could plug it to.After hours of testing I can't over the fact they sound bass heavy to me. I like them way better and they sound more "neutral" or "natural" and close to what I'm used to with speakers and studio monitors when I EQ out the bass shelf of the harman target and run them flat from 200hz. And still they don't sound bass shy at all and are well extended.
Without EQ they sound like the sub would make everything in the room rattle I guess my ears are built differently. At least now I know what suits me best and what I should be looking for in future reviews
Comply 600s fit a treat. I using the large size as they give a good seal and have a good amount of material on them to make them comfortable.So I'm interested to see if the 600's fit, but I'm wondering why one would change the cable.
I like a lightweight cable so that it does not pull on the earphones. A lot of these aftermarket cables seem thick and heavy which is the opposite of what I would want. Maybe you could elaborate on why you decided to change.
I think a single IEM brings as many different ones as the number of pads you could plug it to.
Do you mean silicone tips ?
IEMs sound different based on your physical ears. Mine decently follows the Harman target for bass, in that these don't have much 20Hz-30Hz bass, like notes my subwoofers can play and pressurize the room get dampened with these. 50Hz and up they are good though.After hours of testing I can't over the fact they sound bass heavy to me. I like them way better and they sound more "neutral" or "natural" and close to what I'm used to with speakers and studio monitors when I EQ out the bass shelf of the harman target and run them flat from 200hz. And still they don't sound bass shy at all and are well extended.
Without EQ they sound like the sub would make everything in the room rattle I guess my ears are built differently. At least now I know what suits me best and what I should be looking for in future reviews
If you really want low frequency extension, I would suggest equalization, or the FiiO FH3 as I have them and posted measurements a few pages back. They do a much better job at replicating the subwoofers in my main system. The Truthear Zeros roll off under 50 Hz quite a bit so they give a midbass emphasis. I'm very skeptical of hearing 8 Hz both from these or any speaker, but we'll see. I'm told mine will arrive in 2 days.Oh dear...
I have discovered that a strike (just a single one of the very many played along the three minutes the piece last) on a taiko in my latest song was played too softly and decayed too fast.
Zero from Truthear, a very revealing masterpiece down to 8 Hz.
I think perhaps they might be named ZERO because they start reproducing from 0.01 Hz, but I have no means to check it...
Yeah the apparent low unit and channel variance is a plus, but as you say they were sent by the manufacturer and measured by the collaborator, so this hasn't been independently verified with randomly bought units. As for distortion, this isn't usually an issue with even cheap IEMs (especially with dynamic drivers), as can be seen from the measurements here: https://www.hypethesonics.com/iemdbc/As a tuning fork though I'd be inclined to recommend an IEM that was already very close to target without EQ - and then you've got EQ on top of that to bring it totally onto target. The good thing about this IEM is that it's been measured here on ASR for other things apart from frequency response, so we know the distortion is low & good too. We also suspect it has very good channel matching and low unit to unit variation as evidenced by Crinacle's measurement of 10 samples (albeit they were sent by the company). That and sensible low price of these IEM's does make them a good "tuning fork" for folks here on ASR.