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Revel M16 Speaker Review

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When you talk about a pair of speakers ive been anxious to try since I already own the infinity reference R162. These are among the top.
 
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I get the impression by wording and the panther that you like these better than the genelecs? Why?/Why not?

Will be interesting to see how they compare to the much cheaper Kali Lp-6
 

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Is it possible to EQ the bump centered at 120 Hz?
 

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It's unfortunate that bass hump doesn't start just a little bit lower, so it could be avoided via ~80Hz crossover. When used without a subwoofer, I imagine these sound great for their size, and that hump probably helps compensate for lack of true low end response.
 
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Nice review, thanks. Great to see the measurements of these speakers being verified.

Any plans to review and measure the M106? Given it’s reputation and some of the wonderful things said about it, I would love to see how it performs in your tests.
 

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Looks great, though I would like to see it do better on the distortion side. Is it ok to compare to the Adam S2V? Please note different y-scale.
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I agree. IMO anything above 0.5% THD above 100Hz falls into less-than-stellar cathegory of THD performance.
Especially when its due to an odd (3rd, 5th etc) component as those sound much nastier than the even ones.
 

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I get the impression by wording and the panther that you like these better than the genelecs? Why?/Why not?

Will be interesting to see how they compare to the much cheaper Kali Lp-6
At first I thought it was a clear case of bias, but after going back to the Genelec review I realised that the lack of dynamic capability in the Genelecs is holding it back.

I'm actually a little fascinated that there is a good deal of constant directivity in the Revels, as shown by the flat directivity index between 1800-12000 hz.

This could be a good speaker to check whether or not a constant directivity design is preferable over a more gradual increasing one in smaller spaces. Don't sell these @amirm.
 

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At first I thought it was a clear case of bias, but after going back to the Genelec review I realised that the lack of dynamic capability in the Genelecs is holding it back.
Only in the deep bass, above that the Genelec distortion behaviour is significantly superior as it can be seen from both distortion plots.
 

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Especially when its due to an odd (3rd, 5th etc) component as those sound much nastier than the even ones.

That was a decisive factor for me to buy, seven years ago, the KEF Q100 after reading hardisj's analysis of them and the KEF LS50.

I do not like the distortion graphics of the Revel woofer. Many are unable to look beyond the frequency response.

I also have it very much in mind with the amplifiers.
 

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Only in the deep bass, above that the Genelec distortion behaviour is significantly superior as it can be seen from both distortion plots.
A speaker can be spl limited by other things than out of distortion considerations. Amplifier power, thermal limiting, thermal compression, excursion protection etc.

I agree about distortion superiority, but I don't know if/how relevant that is to sound quality in an absolute sense. My guess is that it's far down the list of important things, but frequency response and dynamic capability is up there imo.
 

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With Samsung ownership, it is not easy to get evaluation units anymore so I will have to buy them to test.

Understood.
A wild idea: maybe you can make a list of top5 most promising speakers that you think are a really good investment of your time and money and allow members to chip in with cash for those that they'd like to see bought & tested. Given that you need only a single speaker and even a single tower can have a good resell value, it would probably take just 10-20 members with $50 each to cover the majority of the cost for a good mid-tier speaker. I'm definitely in for 2-3 speakers now and more later. As a side benefit you'll know what your audience really wants to see the most. Voting with money is the best voting. Cheers.
 
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