I understand the "best of breed" context. I just think if the breed has two legs shorter than the other two maybe the conversation should stop being "which one walks in a bigger circle" and be "stop breeding this abomination."
We are talking about a micro centre speaker for home use and you are asking me if a studio control room is better. You seem to have a way of asking silly questions.Come, come! Tell the truth now @sarumbear: which setup would you rather be in or want to possess?
"Horses for courses".
==> "Best HORSE in the glue factory"?I understand the "best of breed" context.
Not sure if I understood all the analogies, but my point is, a center channel speaker has a specific purpose in a surround setup that the C10 clearly fails to achieve; it cannot be properly integrated with subs in a movie setup at reasonable crossover frequencies nor output the center channel without subs. It does not have to cost a lot to achieve a better bass extension than this.I understand the "best of breed" context. I just think if the breed has two legs shorter than the other two maybe the conversation should stop being "which one walks in a bigger circle" and be "stop breeding this abomination."
Thank you! I prefer 'silly' than stiffneck. You possibly could not be the only one that has spent time in studio/control rooms. But, if I am not mistaken you prefer multi-multi speakers systems and the 'silly' old me has decided to stick w/2 speakers in a K.I.S.S. way. I don't need to shower anyone with my brilliance, but what you call 'silly' may come in handy for some who prefer to consider them. Say cheese!You have a way of asking silly questions.
I also think [maybe a bit too much], using a center speaker means the use of 3+ total # of speakers, but a DSP (Dolby?) is used to distribute (dice and splice) the audio frequency into compartments. These 'dice-n-splice' bits that are sent to different speakers in the environment, that can potentially mess up which portions of the "compartmented" audio spectrum the Left/Right speakers are getting or not getting (<< 'impact OF the center').
Comparing a studio control room to a small centre speaker and asking me which one I prefer is pretty silly and it has nothing to do with number of speakers you prefer.Thank you! I prefer 'silly' than stiffneck. You possibly could not be the only one that has spent time in studio/control rooms. But, if I am not mistaken you prefer multi-multi speakers systems and the 'silly' old me has decided to stick w/2 speakers in a K.I.S.S. way. I don't need to shower anyone with my brilliance, but what you call 'silly' may come in handy for some who prefer to consider them. Say cheese!
@amirm in-line with Revel’s above declaration will you consider retesting in 2Pi space?The Revel Concerta C10 series is specifically designed to be mounted on a wall. Mounting it any other fashion essentially defeats the intended design.
I listened to them in front of my LCD TV. If you mean measure it that way, it is not possible to build a massive wall for Klippel NFS. I can try to make in-room measurement however.
The Revel Concerta C10 series is specifically designed to be mounted on a wall. Mounting it any other fashion essentially defeats the intended design.
Concerta on-wall speakers have been shown to deliver remarkably flat frequency response across an exceptionally wide listening area for clean, accurate sound in real-world listening rooms.
None of the competing systems tested under identical conditions performed as well. Remarkably, Revel engineers could not identify a single competing on-wall system they considered suitable for on-wall use, based on either laboratory measurements or double-blind listening tests.
Marketing talk of course, but "Exceptionally wide"? uh I guess, kinda sorta......it for sure does have some strengths, but not sure that is one.
Wall placement tends to make ALL speakers such as this have a boomy 120-150 hz range. Perhaps filtering out this area removes that annoying carboard box sound for sure. But it also limits usability, in most home theatres.
It is not.The purpose of this speaker is to be a supplement to help center voices, is it not?
You're forgetting this is intended (as per Revel's specific description) to be used with L&R full-range speakers, not only with a sub.It is not.
The purpose of a center channel speaker is to reproduce human voices FULLY, so that the subwoofer doesn't have to. You don't want actors' voices coming from your subwoofer. You want actor's voices anchored to the TV screen.
Exactly right. The center channel carries the narrative and emotional weight of the production. The center speaker should be the very best in the room, not some added-on, half-baked afterthought.The purpose of a center channel speaker is to reproduce human voices FULLY
Most mch mixes have no (or very little) dialog L&R. It's all down to the center. Missing vocal fundamentals are a problem.You're forgetting this is intended (as per Revel's specific description) to be used with L&R full-range speakers, not only with a sub.
You're forgetting this is intended (as per Revel's specific description) to be used with L&R full-range speakers, not only with a sub.
WRT your last statement, that is also incorrect: If there are frequencies within the sub's desired range, it doesn't matter what the "thing" is making the sound - a voice, a canon, thunder; it is all omnidirectional and not located as coming "from" the subwoofer.
A subwoofer works at most 100Hz. What human voice is there at that frequency?It is not.
The purpose of a center channel speaker is to reproduce human voices FULLY, so that the subwoofer doesn't have to. You don't want actors' voices coming from your subwoofer. You want actor's voices anchored to the TV screen.
But with a 5.1 or 7.1 sound mix, ONLY the center will have voices (for 95% or so scenes in movies) and what is lacking in the center, will not be filled in by other speakers.The Concerta C10 was meant to be used with a pair of the Concerta M10s as LR speakers.