Mivera
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It's no different than D0P for DSD being completely lossless. In theory it may be but the extra processing degrades performance.
I believe it's more like you have a very vivid imagination.Either that or have the ability to hear.
They aren't on to anything. Designing DACs teaches you nothing about proper audio evaluation.
I know how they work and I can assure you that your impressions are wrong.
I believe it's more like you have a very vivid imagination.![]()
Yes, processing is different between WAV and FLAC (and any other format) but the bits presented to the DAC are the same (barring bit errors that could happen with either format). Both are well-specified standards, not sure why the decoders for either would be a huge challenge.
Isolation of analog from digital is an issue with any digital format and I cannot think why FLAC and WAV would differ on that regard. The decoded digital bit stream is presented to the DAC that converts to analog, not sure why there would be any difference at that point.
Arguing religion again...
I still await the golden ears to take Amir up on his offer and submit them selves to overseen controled blind tests. Put their money where their mouth is. Its a simple put up or shut up scenario.It funny how then layman always knows more than the top engineers with over 100 patents. All it takes is following your culture of choice on online forums and you are instantly an audio god.
You can program a thousand FPGAs and not know a thing about how to do an audio test properly. I have managed not only development of FPGAs but full blow ASICs at multiple companies. Show more of this kind if disrespect and lack of knowledge and your time will be very short here.After you program an FPGA to decode FLAC then come back and tell your story.
I will do it for you: Don is a high-speed DAC designer. Importantly, he understands these topics from first principles. I suggest Mike spend a minute researching who he is writing this stuff too and save himself a heap of trouble.I could list my credentials and first-hand experience, and explain how a competent design can isolate the two power domains, but why bother. I suppose I should change my sig to "bandit". This is why posting is such a waste of time.
But the problem is still whether that "competent design" has been realised, in the flesh, for the products that apparently show a difference in audible behaviour, for WAV and FLAC. A straightforward test could be to use two such devices, make sure that they match sufficiently well in electrical output in real time when processing identical WAV files, then switch one to doing the exercise on FLAC instead - if there is a significant variance in the difference signal in this situation then one is starting to get answers ...I could list my credentials and first-hand experience, and explain how a competent design can isolate the two power domains, but why bother. I suppose I should change my sig to "bandit". This is why posting is such a waste of time.
The worlds top DAC chip engineers also agree Wav is better than FLAC as well. So these guys must be onto something. Sounds better to me ears as well. I suppose the key is know how things actually work. Either that or have the ability to hear.
Physiology and molecular oncology. Several relatively prestigious universities. And yes the height thing is hilarious.I find the "height" thing hilarious .. it will however strike a chord in some people ... One of those guys even has a "Dr" in his title! Wonder from what University and in what field?
But the problem is still whether that "competent design" has been realised, in the flesh, for the products that apparently show a difference in audible behaviour, for WAV and FLAC. A straightforward test could be to use two such devices, make sure that they match sufficiently well in electrical output in real time when processing identical WAV files, then switch one to doing the exercise on FLAC instead - if there is a significant variance in the difference signal in this situation then one is starting to get answers ...
I could list my credentials and first-hand experience, and explain how a competent design can isolate the two power domains, but why bother. I suppose I should change my sig to "bandit". This is why posting is such a waste of time.
You can program a thousand FPGAs and not know a thing about how to do an audio test properly. I have managed not only development of FPGAs but full blow ASICs at multiple companies. Show more of this kind if disrespect and lack of knowledge and your time will be very short here.
I could list my credentials and first-hand experience, and explain how a competent design can isolate the two power domains, but why bother. I suppose I should change my sig to "bandit". This is why posting is such a waste of time.