Neumann KH120 II Monitor Review

[IamJF]

It's a no brainer in this price range. With the digital input and MA1 possibility on top.
Until you search for some "sound" or speakers for enjoying music ... then you are better with some other speakers.

 

[Pearljam5000]

It's a no brainer in this price range. With the digital input and MA1 possibility on top.
Until you search for some "sound" or speakers for enjoying music ... then you are better with some other speakers.

You can't enjoy music on it ?

 

[staticV3]

You can't enjoy music on it ?

They'll play music just how it was mastered in the studio.
There's no way you can enjoy that. Needs a smiley curve on top!

/s

 

[isabido]

It's a no brainer in this price range. With the digital input and MA1 possibility on top.
Until you search for some "sound" or speakers for enjoying music ... then you are better with some other speakers.

Excuse my English, I may not be interpreting the comment.

For my part, I would enjoy the perfect response that these KH120 II can give, I am more than used to this type of sound.

Here I leave you the response of my system with a 2.1 GENELEC 8020 + SUB DIY 10" JBL configuration. Everything adjusted with FIR generated by Acourate (Audiovero), I listen in very close field, with the two monitors next to the monitor at 0.6meter.

 

[IamJF]

You can't enjoy music on it ?

You know what I meant.
Try to hear online radio with them ... I would not put them in my kitchen. Many people are not interested in all the details, they just want to listen to all sorts of music (also bad recordings and streams!!! ) and sometimes turn the volume up and have a 15dB bass peak. It's the wrong speaker for them.

I personally like them a lot, but I like analytical listening. I want to hear what was happening during mixing and mastering. And be amazed by great productions.

 

[TheBatsEar]

Why is the white one more expensive on Thomann ?

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They did the same with the KH 80 II and the Genelec 8020D in white. Bought them in white regardless, it's just money, right?

 

[feitaishi]

They did the same with the KH 80 II and the Genelec 8020D in white. Bought them in white regardless, it's just money, right?

kh80ii？

 

[TheBatsEar]

Yes:

 

[TheBatsEar]

No! They are called KH 80 DSP, sorry.

 

[goat76]

Yes:
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Which ones do you prefer sound-wise, the Genelecs or the Neumanns?

 

[TheBatsEar]

Which ones do you prefer sound-wise, the Genelecs or the Neumanns?

They sound the same to me after correction and subwoofer integration. The Neumann has better measurements pre correction. Post correction they are pretty much both perfect.

I prefer the Genelec 8020D and will likely send the Neumann back. My reasons:

• The Neumann feel cheap and hollow because they are made from plastic, like computer speakers from the 2000s.
• I can't use the DSP functionality because i don't have an Apple Device.
• The DSP i can't use adds latency.
• They cost more than the 8020D.
• The 8020D fits to a VESA mount (if you widen the holes on the VESA mount to 8mm).

 

[Pearljam5000]

They sound the same to me after correction and subwoofer integration. The Neumann has better measurements pre correction. Post correction they are pretty much both perfect.

I prefer the Genelec 8020D and will likely send the Neumann back. My reasons:

• The Neumann feel cheap and hollow because they are made from plastic, like computer speakers from the 2000s.
• I can't use the DSP functionality because i don't have an Apple Device.
• The DSP i can't use adds latency.
• They cost more than the 8020D.
• The 8020D fits to a VESA mount (if you widen the holes on the VESA mount to 8mm).

Finally someone who also prefers aluminum

 

[TheBatsEar]

Finally someone who also prefers aluminum

I didn't think i would mind, until i actually touched them. It probably raised their margin by a good amount.

 

[isabido]

oopsss why do you need an apple device? I don't need a MA-1

 

[TheBatsEar]

why do you need an apple device?

That was what i was thinking. Why not use the existing protocol and hire a guy to write an Android or Windows app.
I guess they simply don't care enough as their stuff is sold anyway.

Except to me, that is.

Is the same true for the KH 120 II? Plastic enclosure? Only the Apple app?

 

[goat76]

The Neumann feel cheap and hollow because they are made from plastic, like computer speakers from the 2000s.

Funny that you mention that, the Neumanns looked a bit cheap in the hand of Erin in his review of the speaker.

 

[somebodyelse]

I can't use the DSP functionality because i don't have an Apple Device.

You don't need an Apple device any more. The software for the MA-1 runs on Windows. There's also free software if you can handle Python:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...-sennheiser-sound-control-protocol-ssc.38607/
See second page for an application rather than a library.

 

[Rednaxela]

Plastic enclosure?

KH 120 II

The KH 120 II is based on the same concept as its acclaimed predecessor but completely re-engineered for improved performance in all parameters: deeper bass, higher SPL capability and even better resolution.

www.neumann.com

 

[TheBatsEar]

The software for the MA-1 runs on Windows.

I don't have a MA-1.

There's also free software if you can handle Python:
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...-sennheiser-sound-control-protocol-ssc.38607/
See second page for an application rather than a library.

While i applaud this effort, this is something Neumann should have solved for their customers. They probably licensed the solution from Sennheiser and called it a day 4 years ago, when the Apple app got the last update.

 

[Pearljam5000]

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KH 120 II

The KH 120 II is based on the same concept as its acclaimed predecessor but completely re-engineered for improved performance in all parameters: deeper bass, higher SPL capability and even better resolution.

www.neumann.com

If Genelec can make a great sounding monitor that has an aluminum cabinet I'm sure Neumann can do it too