http://www.lavryengineering.com/products/pro-audio/savitr.html Specs are overall quite good. Shows some rising distortion with frequency but that's not too surprising, and the specs are quite solid overall.
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Lavry Gold Savitr (new A/D standalone)
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The specs aren't much different than Lavry had a decade ago. Certainly quite good. I agree with pozz the pricing is too high.
That was from a decade ago.
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That was the gold; this is something new. Just saw it in the product announcements forum on GS.
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I am happy with my Lavry DA11
I certainly cannot ear difference with other good Dac.
But it fit all my requirements :
- good volume control (<0.1db error)
- balanced or unbalanced
- usb or aes or spdif (and with USB standard UAC2)
- no big poc (a little poc on on off but acceptable) even when abruptly power off
- reliable
- internal power
On used item, you can found it for good price (mine <300€) .
I certainly cannot ear difference with other good Dac.
But it fit all my requirements :
- good volume control (<0.1db error)
- balanced or unbalanced
- usb or aes or spdif (and with USB standard UAC2)
- no big poc (a little poc on on off but acceptable) even when abruptly power off
- reliable
- internal power
On used item, you can found it for good price (mine <300€) .
A thinking man's product made in the USA. I had a Lavry DAC, the DA10 and it was an excellent performer.
The engineering is top notch.
This alone puts it in a class all its own. I would love to hear this in my big rig today.
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I'm not seeing what I get for $8100 compared to my $2000 RME ADI-2 Pro.
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It's a studio/mastering tool.
The right question is "how many DA / AD conversion before hearing a difference".
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I think with the right gear the answer is more than 8 conversions. How many is enough?
Here are two threads where I did 8 generations of AD/DA and you can download the results and listen for yourself.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...dac-loop-vs-the-original-can-you-hear-it.448/
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...-choose-the-8th-generation-digital-copy.6827/
I didn't have Lavry gear, but wish I did.
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The soft clipping on these is supposedly excellent for increasing loudness fairly transparently, which as I understand it is why MEs pay the big bucks for these.
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From one of the Lavry manuals. I was not aware they did analog tape simulation for clipping .
The MXis a redesign of the MKIII, with the additional feature of increased ability to handle clipping of the audio signal without apparent loss of signal quality. In the quest to achieve the elevated levels common in pop music; Mastering engineers as well as Mix engineers can utilize clipping as a means of dynamic range control without the down-side of attack and release times associated with compressors and limiters.Although the MkIII model already had a reputation for “clean clipping,” the MX model extends the useful range of clipping to even higher levels.The MX model retains the Lavry exclusive Soft Saturation modes which increase the level below the saturation threshold by a selectable 3 or 6db. Audio signals above the threshold are processed by an emulation of analog tape saturation without artifacts associated with attack and release times.In combination with the improved handling of clipping level signals, the AD122-96MX offers more options for hotter recording levels than other converters.Because the difference between the MkIII and MX models did not require changes to the converter’s software, the MX model will display “Ver2.1e”©2000dB tech, AD122-96MkII”in the initialization screen of the LCD display
I don't see it either. But maybe it's a more natural and larger soundstage you'd hear?
Not seeing the prices on their page: http://www.lavryengineering.com/products.html
See there's the DA-11 on the page and I know that one and others are far more likely in the same price ballpark as the RME.
Some might see the engineering differences as more analogue. That's a personal taste thing. I have had a nice Lavry DAC but would love to hear the RME in my current big rig.
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The gold probably has good ROI for impressing clients.
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Ahhh....
Well, having several analog tape decks, I don't need no stinkin' tape emulation....
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Hmmmmm, having formerly owned a few analog tape decks, with the Lavry I wouldn't need no stinkin' tape decks.Ahhh....
Well, having several analog tape decks, I don't need no stinkin' tape emulation....
Don't know if they also emulate different tape formulae and speeds or not. Perhaps different splicing tapes and different cutting angles also change the sound...Ahhh....
Well, having several analog tape decks, I don't need no stinkin' tape emulation....
Honestly, if I can choose something as a gift but cannot resell it, I may choose something like hardware accelerated Pro Tools HDX or Apollo X16, at least I can have some DSP to play with.
Yes, I was getting to the point that what you hear is what you hear is mostly intermodulation distortion which by the way one of the things AP uses to measure quickly, because they space the multitude logarithmicaly.
But my point is that the loop listening test does "hide" the harmonic distortion, making the test questionable to me. (One can measure intermodulation with dual tones).
My main problem with loop testing is that some people do use some free software to MATCH AD and DA converters, which is nonsense to me. I see it has been going for about 10 years. They seem to dismiss AP testing. I encountered claims that it does what the AP can't do.
I am retired comfortably, but it bothers me to see more than a few people believing such stuff. That free software is based on measuring, not listening. I think the software is broken. The "proof" that it works is done by people listening afterwords to the recomanded matched converters.
But my point is that the loop listening test does "hide" the harmonic distortion, making the test questionable to me. (One can measure intermodulation with dual tones).
My main problem with loop testing is that some people do use some free software to MATCH AD and DA converters, which is nonsense to me. I see it has been going for about 10 years. They seem to dismiss AP testing. I encountered claims that it does what the AP can't do.
I am retired comfortably, but it bothers me to see more than a few people believing such stuff. That free software is based on measuring, not listening. I think the software is broken. The "proof" that it works is done by people listening afterwords to the recomanded matched converters.
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