Is that really a Klipsch speaker ?
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Klipsch The Nines - Review & Measurements by Erin
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Is that really a Klipsch speaker ?
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That's what I thought, too. They have a rep...
Definitely the best measuring speaker from Klipsch so far.
Great to see Klipsch designing more neutral speakers.
Great to see Klipsch designing more neutral speakers.
It's the end of an error. Uhm era.
Looks like they got the NFS too, or at least access to use one, to get the design right. Good for them. Now let's see the entire line updated.
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The Fives weren't bad either. But these are next-level. Definitely, active DSP design helps.
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Even the older passive RP series measured quite well as I had showed 1.5 years ago:
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Somehow I felt that Klipsch was often treated more harsh than deserved here.
Klipsch RP-600M Speaker Review
EQ design: I have generated two EQs. The APO config files are attached. The first one, labelled, LW is targeted at making the LW flat The second, labelled Score, starts with the first one and adds the score as an optimization variable. The EQs are designed in the context of regular stereo use...
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Somehow I felt that Klipsch was often treated more harsh than deserved here.
Yeah but how do you upgrade when a better sounding amp and DSP comes along next year? And what to do with my 10 ga wires?Definitely, active DSP design helps.
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An already good speaker wouldn't need for upgrade. That is the all point.
I'd say that these will sell well and fast on second-hand market.
They are really beautiful and measure incredibly well .... But let's be serious, who wants klipsch without copper woofers???
You won't be able to fix this bump in the frequency response at around 18khz.
Here's the spin:
Look at Sound Power DI and Early Reflections DI at around 18khz, and you'll see a bump as well, which means you won't be able to EQ in this region.
For an example, here's the previous Klipsch the Fives, that has the same problem at 18khz (or so).
Even if you apply EQ to the Fives, this is the best you can achieve:
Nope, the step in directivity @1kHz is something one would not like to see with speakers designed for home use (you may want to add a wide dispersion center speaker). Multitone distortion is as bad as with every other 2-way. Mind you, with real music it will become very much worse (the multitone has simply not enough bass).The Fives weren't bad either. But these are next-level. Definitely, active DSP design helps.
18kHz? When do you think almost any of us can hear 18kHz?You won't be able to fix this bump in the frequency response at around 18khz.
Here's the spin:
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Look at Sound Power DI and Early Reflections DI at around 18khz, and you'll see a bump as well, which means you won't be able to EQ in this region.
For an example, here's the previous Klipsch the Fives, that has the same problem at 18khz (or so).
Even if you apply EQ to the Fives, this is the best you can achieve:
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Plus they look good and aren't overly expensive. Add two subs and a simple streamer and you have a nice system for less than $3000. If there just weren't these dials/switches on top...
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Text review is online:
Erin said out of the box, the speakers were not flat (bright), but he said the rudimentary EQ sliders allowed him to get the response flat.
I keep saying that, for a speaker review, if a speaker provides some EQ or tone controls, the reviewer should always try to use to get a flat response as possible before judging it. Active speakers almost always have controls or dip-switches to tailor the response, or apps that allow some customization, so they should be used if possible to get the speaker performing as well as it possibly can and then share the settings used.
I'm glad Erin takes into account the available built-in tools offered by the speaker itself.
I keep saying that, for a speaker review, if a speaker provides some EQ or tone controls, the reviewer should always try to use to get a flat response as possible before judging it. Active speakers almost always have controls or dip-switches to tailor the response, or apps that allow some customization, so they should be used if possible to get the speaker performing as well as it possibly can and then share the settings used.
I'm glad Erin takes into account the available built-in tools offered by the speaker itself.
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Strongly disagree.
Any product has to be evaluated as it performs out of the box, whatever product that is. As many potential buyers will.
That should be the manufacturer's job to deliver a speaker that actually performs. Not on users or reviewers to tweak it to do so...
Then, yes. It is very informative if reviewer could also share measurements with EQ and adjustments, what Erin did in that case.
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