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Irritating Dog Habit

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I would like to know if it is safe to use an e-collar to correct some unwanted behavior of my Akita. I came across these shock collars and I'm wondering what are the pros and cons of using this type of product in training my dog. Do any of you have any experience with anything like a shock collar? I know this would probably be better suited for a pet forum but thought I'd ask for opinions here anyway.
Sounds like an old Star Trek episode:

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I hate to put a negative slant to this doggie problem but an unruly pet reflects poorly on the owner that raised the pet.
Akitas can be a loving breed and a family guardian but require special handling and training to NOT break their Akita-ness!
On the positive slant; may I recommend seeking counsel of a specialist to nurture changing the behavior (which you did not specify)?
I would also like to encourage you to understand your Akita, if through nothing else but reading about their needs and personalities.

Please!
I'd like to put that shock collar on the person that recommended it to you.:mad:
 

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It is not a substitute for proper training. Akita is not an easy breed so proper training is very important. A very effective method is to add an unusual touch and sound. You can lightly grab the dog from the crease under the jaw or the crease in front of the rear leg. It does not hurt them but they don't really like it. I give the HEY! Once reinforced it will stick when you are even across the yard. I have had a lot of dogs and one of the dogs I own now is a chihuahua. I took at least 500 times to teach him to sit. Just don't give up. He is a model citizen now
 

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This could be an issue... with cream coloured carpet;
My hemorrhoids have been so bad lately I wish I could do that. :p
 

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I hate to put a negative slant to this doggie problem but an unruly pet reflects poorly on the owner that raised the pet.

One of the walking trails we use is sometimes used by a man walking 2 German Shepards. Both dogs are greater than 100 pounds and the man is barely able to restrain them from wanting to visit us and eat our 11 pound Japanese Chin.

It's always the owner. The problem dogs have owners unwilling to do what is necessary to properly train them.
 

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It's always the owner. The problem dogs have owners unwilling to do what is necessary to properly train them.
Absolutely true. I was trained as a dog handler in the Army and for Scout Dogs we used exclusively German Shepards. Their combination of very acute smell and hearing combined with high intelligence made them easy to train for field duty. The biggest problem I experience with dogs today is the small breeds and their constant barking. Again it's the owner, I don't understand do the owners think it's cute, the constant yapping, I rarely hear an owner tell the dog to shut up. My next door neighbor just got a real cute tiny pup but had him trained to be quiet in a very short time, OTOH I have neighbors up and down the block with dogs that are a constant nuisance that I want to choke them. I live in a 55 and older community and it seems they have all replaced their children with tiny dogs that they're afraid to discipline, I wonder if they were the same raising their kids?
 

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Absolutely true. I was trained as a dog handler in the Army and for Scout Dogs we used exclusively German Shepards. Their combination of very acute smell and hearing combined with high intelligence made them easy to train for field duty. The biggest problem I experience with dogs today is the small breeds and their constant barking. Again it's the owner, I don't understand do the owners think it's cute, the constant yapping, I rarely hear an owner tell the dog to shut up. My next door neighbor just got a real cute tiny pup but had him trained to be quiet in a very short time, OTOH I have neighbors up and down the block with dogs that are a constant nuisance that I want to choke them. I live in a 55 and older community and it seems they have all replaced their children with tiny dogs that they're afraid to discipline, I wonder if they were the same raising their kids?
probely
 

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I would like to know if it is safe to use an e-collar to correct some unwanted behavior of my Akita. I came across these shock collars and I'm wondering what are the pros and cons of using this type of product in training my dog. Do any of you have any experience with anything like a shock collar? I know this would probably be better suited for a pet forum but thought I'd ask for opinions here anyway.
In my opinion it's a last ditch option. I'd never use one unless nothing else worked and the dogs safety was at risk not too at least try one.
 

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I would like to know if it is safe to use an e-collar to correct some unwanted behavior of my Akita. I came across these shock collars and I'm wondering what are the pros and cons of using this type of product in training my dog. Do any of you have any experience with anything like a shock collar? I know this would probably be better suited for a pet forum but thought I'd ask for opinions here anyway.
Is this your first dog? Too many people buy dogs because they like the look of them rather than researching a particular breeds behaviour. Maybe you should consider rehoming your dog and get a different more passive breed. I took in a two year old English Bull Terrier bitch her behaviour changed over 48 hours, had dogs all my life and had breeds considered feisty this one was different. Paid for a breed expert to come and look at her, she said it wouldn’t be long before she killed our Westie. By this time it was Saturday decided to keep the dogs apart and was going to take her on Monday to be put down. Luckily her previous owner asked could she have her back, immediately she went back. You didn’t say why they wanted rid of her? If your Akita is exhibiting dangerous behaviour she may get worse after the shock collar treatment. Dog ownership must go along with a sense of responsibility.
 
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Let sleeping dogs lie...

(as mentioned, this thread is over 5 years old now -- highly unlikely to still be relevant)
 

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Is this your first dog? Too many people buy dogs because they like the look of them rather than researching a particular breeds behaviour.
I accepted a fixer upper registered cat killer SPCA dog because it seemed to really like me by barking at me and being excited about me whenever I came near. So I took him upon myself to make a social and nice dog out of a ~2.5 year old large male smooth collie. As it turned out he barked at anything that came close or moved. Like skate boarders, cyclists, joggers, other dogs, cars, big trucks, inline skaters and went totally berserk when deer where in range or horses. What a gong show. Dangerous dog to have in a vehicle because he would lose his mind and jump from the back seat to the front seats without any warning and he would be barking out the side windows and jumping on me while I was driving a 2 door coupe at highway speeds+ through the mountains of British Columbia. I say this because there are lotsa deer, bear, elk, and critters there and I learned fast to restrain the dog to ensure he remained in the back seat and not jumping into my lap every time he saw a deer in the forest which seemed to be pretty often. This dog needed to have a large acreage to roam and run in and not be a apartment dog with daily exercise. As it turned out previous to me he was a apartment dog for ~2.5 years and he was not socialized or trained and he became a nutcase that was shocked and amazed by anything that moved within his range. Eventually one day he bit somebody's horse in the lower legs and almost damaged the horse enough to get a vet bill but as I was advised by the RCMP the horse healed OK and the constable was at my door because he was going to write me a fine/ticket for $3800 as that was the fine for owning a unrestrained dog that attacks a horse. The dog had already been put down for jumping over a hedge and chasing the neighbors cat while trying to kill it. The cat was slightly damaged and the owner reported the dog and because it was a registered cat killer he was put down as it was his MO. The constable upon being advised by me that the dog was a SPCA rescue, I attempted training it over months and calming it and other people tried too and there was just no results happening and that he was a registered cat killer and tried killing the neighbors cat and resultingly was put down decided to not fine me the $3800. So... be very careful with dogs that come from the SPCA or other rescue places because they are a big responsibility and can cause a lot of trouble in seconds flat.
 

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I accepted a fixer upper registered cat killer SPCA dog because it seemed to really like me by barking at me and being excited about me whenever I came near. So I took him upon myself to make a social and nice dog out of a ~2.5 year old large male smooth collie. As it turned out he barked at anything that came close or moved. Like skate boarders, cyclists, joggers, other dogs, cars, big trucks, inline skaters and went totally berserk when deer where in range or horses. What a gong show. Dangerous dog to have in a vehicle because he would lose his mind and jump from the back seat to the front seats without any warning and he would be barking out the side windows and jumping on me while I was driving a 2 door coupe at highway speeds+ through the mountains of British Columbia. I say this because there are lotsa deer, bear, elk, and critters there and I learned fast to restrain the dog to ensure he remained in the back seat and not jumping into my lap every time he saw a deer in the forest which seemed to be pretty often. This dog needed to have a large acreage to roam and run in and not be a apartment dog with daily exercise. As it turned out previous to me he was a apartment dog for ~2.5 years and he was not socialized or trained and he became a nutcase that was shocked and amazed by anything that moved within his range. Eventually one day he bit somebody's horse in the lower legs and almost damaged the horse enough to get a vet bill but as I was advised by the RCMP the horse healed OK and the constable was at my door because he was going to write me a fine/ticket for $3800 as that was the fine for owning a unrestrained dog that attacks a horse. The dog had already been put down for jumping over a hedge and chasing the neighbors cat while trying to kill it. The cat was slightly damaged and the owner reported the dog and because it was a registered cat killer he was put down as it was his MO. The constable upon being advised by me that the dog was a SPCA rescue, I attempted training it over months and calming it and other people tried too and there was just no results happening and that he was a registered cat killer and tried killing the neighbors cat and resultingly was put down decided to not fine me the $3800. So... be very careful with dogs that come from the SPCA or other rescue places because they are a big responsibility and can cause a lot of trouble in seconds flat.
Around here one rehoming centre is well known for saying dogs were strays found on the streets. They are so desperate to rehome it means they don’t tell of behavioural problems.
 
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