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He once saw someone playing vinyl through a horn.
And it was me!!!!OMG!!!!!!
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He once saw someone playing vinyl through a horn.
And it was me!!!!OMG!!!!!!
My take (not of significant value) is that there's not many things missing with nice big horns (I mean big).Classical orchestral or opera are difficult to get right with horns, and it is something I've struggled to get right. The way I've addressed it is that in my active crossover system I have a variable 'voicing' EQ which can be easily adjusted for different recordings and music types (the range of curves from REW - at the listening position -are below). Expecting a large horn speaker such as a Klipsch or JBL to sound right with something like an opera is just not going to happen most of the time unless you're lucky. Classical recordings vary widely, especially in the pickup of the violins which can sound strident even with a conventional speaker, but especially with an aggressively midrange-forward voiced horn, and that typifies Klipsch, JBL and others I'm sure.
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What makes you think I am anti-horn? Did you not notice half an hour ago I was defending them against criticism by your new pal ‘MMV’. You need to pick your alliances more carefully.Obviously I'm an idiot, since I disagree with you. What is it about horns that brings out this kind of rudeness?
Uhm...thanks for the adviceWhat makes you think I am anti-horn? Did you not notice half an hour ago I was defending them against criticism by your new sweetheart ‘MMV’. You need to pick your alliances more carefully.
What brand and model are they?My take (not of significant value) is that there's not many things missing with nice big horns (I mean big).
I have the chance to listen to them all the time (my best friend) at all volumes and with complex classical material.
It's fun but is accurate too,never felt bored or left with tiring feeling.
Blumenhofer DV3 (I had to call him for the model,is somewhat custom if I got it right)What brand and model are they?
Yup, they're super big. Honest question though - would they be your first choice of speaker if you listened to classical exclusively?Blumenhofer DV3 (I had to call him for the model,is somewhat custom if I got it right)
(I almost do listen to classic exclusively)Yup, they're super big. Honest question though - would they be your first choice of speaker if you listened to classical exclusively?
My impression is that Revel tries for complete neutrality, I'm not sure JBL does that. A slightly elevated treble perhaps? Which of course can sound better but in the long run can be infuriating.
Note: I have not heard either of them
I've never heard these particular speakers, so obviously I can't comment specifically. Note that I never said that horns are bad for classical, but rather that to make them shine with classical recordings (especially recordings which veer toward stridency to begin with), some work is necessary. In my case, I designed the voicing filter I posted earlier in this thread. When dialed in, my particular horns sound absolutely spectacular with good classical recordings. Not as great with classical as other genres though.(I almost do listen to classic exclusively)
Depends,I can't say yes or no.
Some plays are super fun,big brasses sound real,swan lake it's an absolute pleasure.Males tenors too,females though sound a little bigger than in my setup.
Big loud passages though are pure force.
(and way too expensive for me )
I was referring to a 'stock' horn system, something like a JBL, Klipsch etc. In those instances, it would be the luck of the draw whether a classical recording sounded great on them. These speakers are voiced with popular music in mind, which makes sense.Thanks, that's much more tempered than "it's just not going to happen... unless you are lucky".
40 years is awhile. I doubt things have changed much at JBL.The last JBL’s I listened to were L300’s. Absolutely horrible, I swore I’d never waste my time again with JBL.
40 years have passed and I might change my mind.
What the...??40 years is awhile. I doubt things have changed much at JBL.
I heard both the JBL K2 S9900 horn speakers and the Revel Salon2s at the JBL Times Square facility. I was impressed by both of them. Hard to pick a winner.
If I discovered I could subjectively--and persistently--improve my listening experience with visual stimuli, I would do it, and I wouldn't apologize.
Grilles, or better. IMO the best sonic illusion is heard and not seen.
Apologies if I missed a prior post, but in the spirit of the OP's question, did you hear a JBL speaker recently that's prompting you to consider changing your mind?40 years have passed and I might change my mind.