GR Research LGK 2.0 Speaker Review (A Joke)

[Toni Mas]

But, at a completely different cost than LGK 2.0.

Golden phase plugs cost money...

 

[DanielT]

Golden phase plugs cost money...

He he..

Speaking of potential, small broadband elements.25 pieces of tc9 in each loudspeaker. Wesayso's speakers:

Or ppataki's
(with another broadband element)

https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/murphys-corner-line-array-project.25983/

 

[Doodski]

Thx for the translation!

What does it mean...

He he..

Speaking of potential, small broadband elements.25 pieces of tc9 in each loudspeaker. Wesayso's speakers:

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Or ppataki's
(with another broadband element)

https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/murphys-corner-line-array-project.25983/

Have you heard those speakers? Do they thump and have slam?

 

[ex audiophile]

Uhhh... that's what unfinished MDF looks like, guys. It's a great material for speaker enclosures and ubiquitous in the well-loved commercial designs here. You would typically seal and paint it or veneer over it.

Just kinda annoyed that you are, from a place of ignorance, insulting @Rick Sykora 's hard work and contributions to the site.

And I'm "kinda annoyed" that you think these comments are coming from a "place of ignorance". I've made fine furniture for many years and I simply made a subjective comment regarding their appearance. You're right they're not fiberboard but they still look like a science project IMO.

 

[mmuetst]

Did Amir use The correct cable lifters to test these speakers?
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Sorry, I did respect Danny first, but after a lot of BS video‘s I’am finished with GR Research.
This video

tells me Danny lost it…..

 

[MattHooper]

Did Amir use The correct cable lifters to test these speakers?
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Sorry, I did respect Danny first, but after a lot of BS video‘s I’am finished with GR Research.
This video

tells me Danny lost it…..

But have you tried and Listened For Yourself??!! Until you have, you don't haven an opinion!


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[Doodski]

tells me Danny lost it…..

He's a flake.

 

[Toni Mas]

If I had to build my own Little Giant Killer ( for desktop use without subwoofer), I would give this (pricy) driver a try...

https://doc.soundimports.nl/pdf/brands/Tang%20Band/W3-1878/pdf_Tang%20Band_W3-1878_1.pdf

 

[DanielT]

What does it mean...

Have you heard those speakers? Do they thump and have slam?

Not them, but similar. Well built / constructed plus EQ, line speakers can be awesome.

Did Amir use The correct cable lifters to test these speakers?
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Sorry, I did respect Danny first, but after a lot of BS video‘s I’am finished with GR Research.
This video

tells me Danny lost it…..

He's a flake.

But he does not even sell cable risers?!

Those who believe in cable risers, why do they lift the cables so little? Shouldn't they think that if you lift them halfway to the ceiling, the excellent sound will come?

 

[moonlight rainbow dream]

And I'm "kinda annoyed" that you think these comments are coming from a "place of ignorance". I've made fine furniture for many years and I simply made a subjective comment regarding their appearance. You're right they're not fiberboard but they still look like a science project IMO.

Tell us more about your opinion about the appearance of raw MDF. It is riveting.

 

[mmuetst]

But have you tried and Listened For Yourself??!! Until you have, you don't haven an opinion!


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I can assure you that this Belgian beer exerts more influence than any cable riser of any kind

 

[ex audiophile]

Tell us more about your opinion about the appearance of raw MDF. It is riveting.

i already expressed my opinion, you seem to be the only one with further interest. move on.

 

[Chester]

Did Amir use The correct cable lifters to test these speakers?
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If these aren’t ‘Puppy on a roll’ they’ll sound terrible ……One for the Brits

 

[carlosmante]

The specs of these Peerless are very similar to the LGK2, except maybe that Sd is a bit larger 35mm2 vs 30mm2. The linear cone excursion Xmax is also the same and limited to 2.5mm. As result, if mounted is the cabinets of the LGK, the bass response will be similar too, and the distortion also similar. I made a quick simulation with Vituix and checked that Xmax is reached at less than 2 W giving and SPL under 90db at 1m. So that it will be as easy to make these saturate as happens with the LGK.

To be honest, GR Research mentions in their specs, that though the max power of their driver is 30W, this must be reduced to 10-15W if used without HPF and subwoofer. Which I consider also optimistic...

Btw, 30W is also the max power specified for the Peerless.

Sd is measured in square centimeters Not in square millimeters. Peerless TC9FD18-08 are a Sd of 36.3 square centimeters.

 

[mhardy6647]

He he..

Speaking of potential, small broadband elements.25 pieces of tc9 in each loudspeaker. Wesayso's speakers:

View attachment 212262

Or ppataki's
(with another broadband element)

https://audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/murphys-corner-line-array-project.25983/

Reminds me of a golden oldie, from the days of the aforementioned PartsExpress "69 cent wonders"...

farm

 

[Bruce Morgen]

Reminds me of a golden oldie, from the days of the aforementioned PartsExpress "69 cent wonders"...

farm

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The late Roger Russell's IDS-25

 

[Newman]

Klippel measures in 3D. If you know the reflecting surface material, dimension, position you can calculate the in-room response of the speaker on a bookshelf, flush to wall, etc.

I’m not sure but I assume the in-room response that @amirm posts are of listening in an undefined “typical” listening room condition.

No, it's a straight formula from the Klippel data, which is as per CEA 2034 Spinorama data:

(JBL LSR-305P measurement)

The room used to generate the percentages was the prototype IEC 268-13 (1985) room, meant to represent fairly normal home listening scenarios. So not undefined, but actually quite precisely specified.

Toole says that by itself the PIR curve is an unreliable predictor of sound quality.

What we can do to make some sense of this, instead of just concluding "well that room is not my room so what's the point", is compare the PIR curve with the axial anechoic curve and see the amount of difference between those two curves. We can then say to ourselves if our room is, we think, relatively highly dampened, that the in room curve in our room will be somewhere between the two. And if we think our room is somewhat of an echo chamber with no carpeting and no soft furnishings, we could predict the in room curve in our room to be further out beyond the PIR curve from the anechoic curve. This notion applies to the mid and high frequencies: the bass is a different issue, and the standard PIR curve is not meant to apply to the bass; it does not predict the in room bass response.

cheers

 

[tomtoo]

What does it mean...

Have you heard those speakers? Do they thump and have slam?

In short, what ever you do with that 3inch, no umpff there.

 

[DanielT]

In short, what ever you do with that 3inch, no umpff there.

Missed to mentioned earlier, the line speakers I have heard have been added with subwoofers. So bass in itself, the lowest frequencies they have taken care of by subwoofers.

Wesayso also uses subwoofers. See #1358 in this thread. More pictures of his speakers, line speakers + subwoofers. Plus some measurements on them:

Wilson Audio TuneTot Review (high-end bookshelf speaker)

That's a great Freudian slip. It provided a little comic relief in what is otherwise an overly comical thread. It is not a Freudian slip, just a language slip. I edited it. English is not my native language.

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Edit:
That was a speaker circus, TuneTot.Poor performance at the huge price, rendered in 77 pages. 77 pages of let's say critical comments.

 

[tomtoo]

Missed to mentioned earlier, the line speakers I have heard have been added with subwoofers. So bass in itself, the lowest frequencies they have taken care of by subwoofers.

Wesayso also uses subwoofers. See #1358 in this thread. More pictures of his speakers, line speakers + subwoofers. Plus some measurements on them:

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Wilson Audio TuneTot Review (high-end bookshelf speaker)

That's a great Freudian slip. It provided a little comic relief in what is otherwise an overly comical thread. It is not a Freudian slip, just a language slip. I edited it. English is not my native language.

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I did not talk about line arrays, i talked only about a single 3inch driver. Line arrays are a different beast to talk about, and it makes no sense to compare to a single driver speaker.