The usual suspects mentioned yet ? Senheiser AKG , Canton and for vintage stuff Braun , Grundig ?
Afaik Bosch did pro video stuff as “ Bosch Fernseh”
All of those, yes.
The usual suspects mentioned yet ? Senheiser AKG , Canton and for vintage stuff Braun , Grundig ?
Afaik Bosch did pro video stuff as “ Bosch Fernseh”
I still don't know why so many German hi-fi products are not marketed globally.
That's what I'd thought. Something like that.the idea that "we are the right size" and you just leave it there, for generations sometimes.
Quite rightGrundig was a benchmark back in the day when I was growing up in Asia. If you had a Grundig, you were a serious audiophile.
Quite right
In the US Grunding was mainly known for its line of portable SW radios. The Satellit series was highly regarded back in the day.Interesting. In the US, it's common an American finds out about a big German company they have never heard of, or have no conception of where it fits in the playing field.
I would bet that if he had said Grundig and S Africa, Chile, Tazmania, etc, you would see similar German brands set in place. It still remains a phenomenal business model if you have the rigor for it. That means languages, service, outreach, and then the basic hard nose engineering.
Secondarily, rural US people often know these "obscure" brand names.
In the US Grunding was mainly known for its line of portable SW radios. The Satellit series was highly regarded back in the day.
South Africa.
Grundig = portable radios / radio cassettes.
Braun = electric shavers, and later on, household/kitchen appliances.
On the other hand, Phillips = everything. Phillips always did global/international.
American hi-fi ...? Maybe high-end like McIntosh known by audiophiles, but insignificant in the market.
British because British Empire - "trade model," "sphere of influence."
>=1970s : Japanese makes rapidly achieve market dominance. Better value for money. Superior engineering. Bye-bye British. [Especially motorbikes.] Only one I can think of that continued, flourished, is KEF.
But because of time period and age group, British hi-fi hardly existed for me. Left-over from uncles' generation - except for audiophiles maybe. ..."Leftover people", a minority, stuck in the mindset of "Jap crap". [Sound familiar? ...It should.]
Philips....from...:Philips is not German. Or spelled Phillips, though an old neighbor's last name was They're an innovation juggernaut, but its a Dutch company. Very similar model to the German 3rd world model though. Their products are in the most remote places ever.
What now comes from where? All these changes in companies, not just in HiFi, who owns what, and manufacturing takes place elsewhere, often in China.
Maybe a new thread? Good HiFi from China? By that I mean created and manufactured in China.
We shall see...If you add "designed" to created and manufactured, it will be a short thread.
Well, ask that question, or reflections on definitions, in the thread.Nice... will be fun to watch. I suspect the word design will become a problem.
By design I mean like you would at a proper innovative hi end company, with research and rigor. Not copypasta schematics which are lifted... not that kind of "research."
For the past couple of weeks I've been looking at different tests on all sorts of European brands, with the intention of finding some great performers and some potential deals on the used market - and Nubert did stand out. Mind you, I haven't listened to any of their offerings yet, but with all their speakers they seem to aim for a rather flat on-axis response and deep bass extension, with the logical trade-off of sensitivity and max spl, all at a sensible price point. Directivity is kinda hard to gauge from the tests at stereoplay, hifitest and so on, but the Nuberts I have seen don't show any egregious flaws, mostly just increased beaming at very high frequencies. The Nuline and Nuvero Series are even made in Germany, the Nuboxx made in the EU, I believe.Tbh, try out Nubert. If you don't like them, you can return them, but in my opinion those are the best value speakers and they have stellar customer service. This is totally biased from me since all almost all my speakers are Nubert, but once you tried out the NuVero series you'll be convinced.
And yes, there was a review about a underperforming amp from them in here where the company had presented their measurement and how they reached their specs which is still open for debate who's right. I neither have any amps or processors from them since I think there are better gadgets for this money.
But they are making (passive) speakers for about 50 years now and I think it shows. Their approach is "Ok, we have a price target of X. How much sound quality can we squeeze out for this price?"