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Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Amplifier Review

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    Votes: 98 48.8%
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    Votes: 69 34.3%
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This is a review and detailed measurements of the Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 tube stereo amplifier. It is on kind loan and cost $3000 (seems to be discontinued now).
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Review.jpg

The amplifier is gorgeous looking and better than just about any tube amplifier I have seen. You can see the style and modernization when looking at the back panel:

Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier back panel Review.jpg

The view is even nicer when looking from the top and seeing stylish labeling on transformers and such. As the name indicates this is another attempt at bringing the famous ST-70 to market. The owner tells me that they seem to have stopped producing it even though it was brought to market in 2018.

A pair of LEDs aid in the bias adjustment for the two stages in each channel. You are supposed to adjust the trim resistors until the two have similar intensity. Out of box, the left channel was not so and I attempted to adjust the bias. I got it close but it is hard to make fine adjustment both on the trim resistor and ability to judge the intensity of the yellow LEDs.

I have read that measurements were not only used to optimize the design but that each amplifier produced would get measured at the end of assembly line to achieve THD of 0.03% (SINAD of 70).

Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Measurements
Let's start with our warm up measurements:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Warm Up Measurements.png

I don't know what is going on the left channel. Clearly there are some variabilities. Looking at the spectrum of it (not shown) distortion would rise up and then go back down in that channel. Maybe a bad tube? Or one that is not firmly seated? (Visual inspection didn't show such through the grill.)

Here is our usual dashboard measurement with 4 ohm load with same setting used on the back panel:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Measurements.png


This is better performance than some of the other variations of Dynaco ST-70 I have reviewed. Gain though is on the low side and is less than its older incarnations. For our modern use though, it is fine as amplifier clips before reaching 2 volt nominal we get these days:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier SNR Measurements.png

As noted, these are good numbers for a tube amplifier.

Frequency response was impressively flat at 4 ohm and almost so at 8 ohm:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Frequency Response Measurements.png


There is a high-pass filter with two settings:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier bass filter frequency response Measurements.png

Good thinking as this amp is not capable of producing much clean power at the lowest range (see measurement below).

Multitone shows large amount of intermodulation distortion:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Multitone Measurements.png

So likely low level detail is masked. Same is true with dual tone test:

Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier 19 20 kHz imd distortion Measurements.png


Crosstalk was surprisingly good:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier crosstalk Measurements.png


Here is how much power we have:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Power 4 ohm Measurements.png

Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier max and peak Power 4 ohm Measurements.png


Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Power 8 ohm Measurements.png


Certainly not much by today's norms. Best to get a high sensitivity speaker as to live in the lower portion of that curve.

Finally, here is the power sweep at different frequencies:
Dynaco ST-70 Series 3 Tube Power Amplifier Power 4 ohm vs frequency Measurements.png

Generally good other than the 20 Hz response.

Conclusions
It seems that a nice clean up pass has been performed to optimize the performance of this famous design. Alas seeing how the original cost just $100, the inflation adjusted cost is $1000 which is a lot less than retail of ST-70 S3. Granted, the original was a mass product while this one appeals to small segment of the market. I see no role for such products in a system you build today but I know there are fans of tube amplifiers so here you are with another option.

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A lot of perople probably grades on some kind of tube scale. The reality is you can get a great amp, multitudes more powerful and exponentially less distortion for a fraction of that cost. I like a Model T for it's historical value, I would not want to go cross country in one. It's like the Harley Davidson of audio.
 
I've been wondering about this amp, based on the comments of other people. I'm glad that I finally know exactly what's up and what's not!

Thank you, Amir! :)

Jim
 
How interesting, thanks to the ASR donor and for testing!

Dynaco designer Hafler created several companies. I have a Hafler amp, as original owner, on the bench for recap. Hafler was early in the parallel FET output stage.

One would assume this is a Pan Orient Corporation reproduction, now owner of the Dynaco trademark.
 
Predictably awful. Once upon a time, we had no choice... my Quad IIs were a bit better than that, referring to the working channel -- until they were stolen, anyway. I reckon they had better channel separation, even ;)
 
Used to have an original Dyna 70 from a used audio gear shop in Berkeley. Predictably gummy sounding but nice on old, damaged LPs. Had a lot at the time (mid-1980s). Had a PAS 3 preamp and little Mission speakers back then and an AR XA 'table with a Grace 707 arm.
 
I purchased this amp at a discount in 2018. Now relegated to my office pushing a pair of Infinity RS2’s bookshelf speakers. I find it pleasing to listen to. The engineers at Radial were kind enough to supply me with schematics that I’m happy to share with other owners. I offered to supply my Series 3 to Amir but it didn’t work out. The design engineer stated that the cage was too expensive to produce, pushing the price too high initially.
 

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Don't think I'll ever understand wanting this tech
 
Wow, is this a venerable design! As I recall, it was originally sold in kit form, and a lot of young, impecunious audiophiles built them to drive their AR-2's in the late '60's - early '70's. It was a pleasant sound in its day, though obviously nowhere near what can be obtained with a Wii and any decent budget speaker of today. Still, those glowing bulbs pumping out Jefferson Airplane songs looked really cool back in the day.

"Hey, man, don't keep that all to yourself. Pass it on."
 
everything has its own reason.
If you like tubes, buy them, live peacefully and enjoy their charm from every point of view....

You will at most have to be aware, as seen in the test, that in pure performance you could lose something compared to a solid state implementation.
But very little changes; it is much more interesting for personal purposes to buy something that you like and that when you use it makes you happy. The important thing is having fun.
Just a note on this amplifier under test: I find other brand box designs more appealing….

Thanks Amirm for the test!!
 
How interesting, thanks to the ASR donor and for testing!

Dynaco designer Hafler created several companies. I have a Hafler amp, as original owner, on the bench for recap. Hafler was early in the parallel FET output stage.

One would assume this is a Pan Orient Corporation reproduction, now owner of the Dynaco trademark.
Radial Engineering out of Canada. They do mostly commercial audio.
 
A lot of perople probably grades on some kind of tube scale. The reality is you can get a great amp, multitudes more powerful and exponentially less distortion for a fraction of that cost. I like a Model T for it's historical value, I would not want to go cross country in one. It's like the Harley Davidson of audio.
Some people LOVE the feel of a Harley... or an old car for that matter.
 
While SINAD is lower and the graphs look messier than modern amps, with <0.1% distortion and flat frequency response I doubt many people could ABX it against a modern amp. I tried it myself with an original ST-70 and could tell no difference.
 
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Curious about the tube complement. Still using 7199s or something else? EL34 outputs? Solid state rectifier or tube?
 
A lot of perople probably grades on some kind of tube scale. The reality is you can get a great amp, multitudes more powerful and exponentially less distortion for a fraction of that cost. I like a Model T for it's historical value, I would not want to go cross country in one. It's like the Harley Davidson of audio.

But Harley Davidson's actually put out good audio and have much better torque.
 
Okay, so this actually has nothing to do with Dynaco other than inspiration. Uses EL34 tubes. A modern, and different transformer which the makers said didn't match the original. Solid state rectifier with regulated bias supply. And 12AU7s in a different circuit from the original. So it might as well be called generic tube amp made again.

I don't know why bias adjustments have been so mucked up on tube amps. I put 10 turn pots on mine (usually running them over to an edge as well). So much nicer that way.

A good modern representation of a 1950/60's tube amp.
 
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