Danny Richie's latest...

[Jim Shaw]

I totally agree. Doctors, lawyers and engineers are usually hard to deal with. Of course not ALL of them, just most of them. Doctors and lawyers know it all and our obviously (in their mind) always the smartest person in the room. Engineers are over the top technical. Generally poor teachers and jump into details that any non-audio person does not understand. But there is hope! Off on the horizon you see a guy mounted on a white horse trotting your way. He seems ten feet tall in the saddle. Once he arrives it is our own famous Amir. He is here to teach non-audio, non-engineers the basics, so they can at the very least make some value judgements and dodge the snake oil. So as I always say there a re two types on ASR, the hardcore engineers (who argue with each other) and are fun to read, then the others are regular non-engineer people who just want to make wiser decisions and learn. So, in reality you can learn A LOT on ASR. All the way into high tech engineering if you want to get into it. Long live ASR! Amir for President! Oh wait, I might have gotten carried away.

SO
The next time you're seriously ill, go to see a witch doctor. To write your will, hire a charismatic Youtuber to write it. If you want to design a loudspeaker, run to an audiophile and do what he says.

And if you want to pick hifi components, you can trust some old guy in a funny shirt. Just make sure he has fresh batteries in his hearing aids on his listening day.

Never ask an engineer the time -- he (or she) will tell you how to build a clock. When he's done, you won't care. [I know; I am one.]

 

[delta76]

We should stop posting every quote from this man, really. We agreed/settled his credibility. No point chasing down every point he made ...

 

[Spkrdctr]

Never ask an engineer the time -- he (or she) will tell you how to build a clock. When he's done, you won't care. [I know; I am one.]

Jim, that is a fantastic statement that summed up what I was saying. But, it is not a bad thing as you need engineers. It is just that some really get into the details very quickly when you want a 2 second answer to a difficult question. I guess the correct engineer response would be, "I could explain this to you but I need two hours". This will make the person go away and is a polite answer!

 

[Recluse-Animator]

"It doesn't make any difference whether I own a Klippel or not to understand the value of owning that tool. Think of it as trying to measure the MPG of a car. I have the means to measure it to the hundredth of a gallon. A Klipple has the means to measure it to the thousandth of a gallon. Does it really matter? No. What you are saying is like telling one of the worlds greatest artist that they really need to be using the latest brushes." Danny Richie.

Comparing science to art isn't valid as art is 100% opinion based without any basis in reality.

 

[mansr]

Jim, that is a fantastic statement that summed up what I was saying. But, it is not a bad thing as you need engineers. It is just that some really get into the details very quickly when you want a 2 second answer to a difficult question.

That's because the engineers are all more or less autistic. (I am an engineer.)

 

[Thomas Savage]

I totally agree. Doctors, lawyers and engineers are usually hard to deal with. Of course not ALL of them, just most of them. Doctors and lawyers know it all and our obviously (in their mind) always the smartest person in the room. Engineers are over the top technical. Generally poor teachers and jump into details that any non-audio person does not understand. But there is hope! Off on the horizon you see a guy mounted on a white horse trotting your way. He seems ten feet tall in the saddle. Once he arrives it is our own famous Amir. He is here to teach non-audio, non-engineers the basics, so they can at the very least make some value judgements and dodge the snake oil. So as I always say there are two types on ASR, the hardcore engineers (who argue with each other) and are fun to read, then the others are regular non-engineer people who just want to make wiser decisions and learn. So, in reality you can learn A LOT on ASR. All the way into high tech engineering if you want to get into it. Long live ASR! Amir for President! Oh wait, I might have gotten carried away.

' President ' would be a demotion for the ' king of audio ' but fear not Amirm is a merciful king so you should keep your head despite this grave insolence .

 

[Thomas Savage]

Never ask an engineer the time -- he (or she) will tell you how to build a clock. When he's done, you won't care. [I know; I am one.]

. .. Missed your train or burnt the turkey at least .

 

[SKBubba]

"Klippel measured? Totally unnecessary.

Translation: I can't afford a Klippel. And even if I could, I wouldn't know how to operate it.

 

[DJNX]

"Knowing how to read and interpret the measurements are far more important than trying to measure them to the highest level of accuracy."

I would understand this statement if the accurate measurements were too difficult to obtain, but that's not the case.
The price of the device (Klippel) is certainly a barrier, and had he used that reason then any criticism would have been unfair. However he just dismisses it entirely.

So rejecting accurate data makes me think it's more about keeping alive the audiophile "voodoo" than any other thing.

 

[phoenixdogfan]

Technology and science are a fad. Once it's past like bell bottoms and roach clips, guys like Danny & Paul will be seen as prophets dancing around a "Bonfire of the Vanities".

We are all monkeys before the monolith.

 

[Chrispy]

We are all monkeys before the monolith.

Not sure what side Danny is on sometimes....

 

[Recluse-Animator]

I would understand this statement if the accurate measurements were too difficult to obtain, but that's not the case.
The price of the device (Klippel) is certainly a barrier, and had he used that reason then any criticism would have been unfair. However he just dismisses it entirely.

So rejecting accurate data makes me think it's more about keeping alive the audiophile "voodoo" than any other thing.

It's not like we don't know how to interpret measurements. It's not rocket science. He just can't make good arguments.

Sure Klippel is expensive, but you could just have your speakers measured by a third party instead of buying one yourself.
So even that wouldn't be a good argument.

 

[Chrispy]

My overall impression of Dannie is he means well but flails a lot.

 

[posvibes]

Nothing I don't know about the Dunning-Kruger Effect, I am the master of all there is to know about the Dunning-Kruger effect, what I don't know about it can be written on a postage stamp, yes sirree I got it beat!

 

[Chrispy]

Nothing I don't know about the Dunning-Kruger Effect, I am the master of all there is to know about the Dunning-Kruger effect, what I don't know about it can be written on a postage stamp, yes sirree I got it beat!

LOL can we have a demo please?

 

[DanielT]

..this from the guy who sells a $1k speaker with a 'full range' 4 inch driver

full range' 3 inch driver

GR Research LGK 2.0 Speaker Review (A Joke)

This is a review and detailed measurements of the GR Research "Little Giant Killer" (LGK) 2.0 bookshelf speaker. It comes in various forms from a kit ($313) to fully finished pair ($1,038). Our DIY expert @Rick Sykora built my sample using the flatpack ($100): Rick had to do the round over on...

audiosciencereview.com

Edit:
Danny have now developed it and created a model 2.1 by adding a...5 inch woofer in the construction. Now what would it be good for?See from #999 page 50 onwards regarding Danny's new 2.1 LGK creations.

 

[Chrispy]

full range' 3 inch driver

GR Research LGK 2.0 Speaker Review (A Joke)

This is a review and detailed measurements of the GR Research "Little Giant Killer" (LGK) 2.0 bookshelf speaker. It comes in various forms from a kit ($313) to fully finished pair ($1,038). Our DIY expert @Rick Sykora built my sample using the flatpack ($100): Rick had to do the round over on...

audiosciencereview.com

Let alone anyone really wanting such a wanker speaker

 

[Mart68]

Technology and science are a fad. Once it's past like bell bottoms and roach clips, guys like Danny & Paul will be seen as prophets dancing around a "Bonfire of the Vanities".

'Open the pod bay doors, Klippel'

'I'm sorry Amir. I'm afraid I can't do that.'

 

[tomtoo]

Do you need a chainsaw to cut a tree? No. You can also use a stoneaxe.
Have fun.

 

[DanielT]

If I understood it all correctly, Danny performs his speaker measurements indoors, in his garage or workshop..? But why doesn't he measure outdoors? Surely it should be better than indoors (if you don't have Klippel)?
But maybe Danny doesn't have the opportunity to do that, measurements carried out on a reasonably open outdoor area?

Danny should buy the Klippel Near Field Scanner. It cost, when Erin bought his Klippel almost two years ago, $100K. Yes, it is a lot of money, but if you are a speaker manufacturer, you are, and then you need good measuring equipment.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/i-just-purchased-the-klippel-near-field-scanner-for-my-site-channel-erins-audio-corner.3179815/

Incidentally, there are other measuring systems that look good:
(I'm not an expert, I must add, so I don't know if it's really good)

Beyond Thiele/Small DUMAX and Klippel Driver Measurement Systems

Anyone who is serious about designing a loudspeaker using dynamic drivers is either familiar with, or has used, Thiele/Small parameters, generally accepted as ways to predict driver behavior in different enclosures. But there are other measurement methods we can use to determine and quantify...

audioxpress.com

Edit:
DUMAX appears to be a measurement system for measuring the driver itself. That can be investigated by more knowledgeable people, if there is an interest.