Danny Richie's latest...

[Recluse-Animator]

Sorry if I misunderstood, but did you think my title was misleading?

 

[Recluse-Animator]

Art by definition is the result of a set of techniques to archive something. In that case, the technique is selling it

Anyone can make what qualifies as "art" these days.

 

[Ageve]

Sorry if I misunderstood, but did you think my title was misleading?

No, not at all.

I've just had enough of Danny Richie.

 

[Recluse-Animator]

No, not at all.

I've just had enough of Danny Richie.

That was my first guess, but as you didn't include the post I started speculating.
Probably a stupid thread, but I guess I was bored.

 

[Pablo27]

There are honorable methods to make money, and then there are ways that are not so honorable. People pick and choose according to their value system and ethics. That's the way it has been since (I suppose*) the beginning of the human race. Danny is no different.

(* I'm old, but not old enough to know for sure )

Jim

There's apart of me that wants to believe he is just delusional, unlikely I know, but its nice to try and see the best in people.

 

[bkatbamna]

Don't worry, medical schools are now becoming woke indoctrination centers, so future physicians will be just as dumb as the general population.

 

[Frgirard]

Don't worry, medical schools are now becoming woke indoctrination centers, so future physicians will be just as dumb as the general population.

having assiduously attended hospitals 25 years ago, there were many stupid ones : they were ahead.

 

[Jimbob54]

There's apart of me that wants to believe he is just delusional, unlikely I know, but its nice to try and see the best in people.

The only thing you can believe 100% about anyone who sells is that they are trying to get your money. It is incumbent on the consumer to gauge whether they believe what is being sold is worth their money. What the seller believes is irrelevant

 

[dfuller]

Sure Klippel is expensive, but you could just have your speakers measured by a third party instead of buying one yourself.

Or you could just do the Napier Lopez method where you do gated spins and stitch nearfield LF. No reason you can't do that and get good results, he just doesn't want to, or doesn't care.

 

[OldHvyMec]

Spkrdctr said:
In many trades, people think they are amazing and do a fantastic job when in reality they have been doing the same mistakes and mediocre job for 20 years.

The fact that a layperson is critiquing a professional labor is what caught my eye.. Thousands of people in my life offered opinions on heavy duty repairs. I believe it's called arm chair quarterbacks. I'm pretty good at it too. I also live in a small glass house.

I find the same with Danny Ritchie. I remember some of his early repairs in regards to VMPS. It was a "hoot" to follow the threads.
He has grow up in the industry just like everyone else and is a part of it. He produces a product and is successful. He has modified a lot of speakers to sound different.
His repairs are at a price point. The reviews on his work are there for anyone to read. I knew/know several owners of GR speakers. I haven't heard all of them. I owned the 123s LS9s and still own 4 dual 12" OB subs. Bang for the buck, and quality, it's a good product.

I read the comments on the LGK 313.00 flat pack. I've never heard it, so I can't comment. The bookmark for a bookshelf speaker was an Infinity Infinitesimal. The first 2 versions. I still have both pairs. 1975 or so. I'm not a peanut speaker fan. But The little Infinity was "THE" standard for me. I have no clue how they measure.

OTOH GRs NX series, very nice sounding, nice looking and reasonable priced speakers. Couple them with GRs servos. Pretty dynamic system for any amount of money.
Have I HEARD better. NO!

I find GR a wonderful company to work with. I've never used any cables or connectors. Just cabinets, speakers and Rythmik plate amps. I use my own wire, connectors, dampening and decoupling devices.

Have any of the people commenting about GR owned their products? Have you worked with the GR staff and Danny? Are any of the people commenting
in competition with GR?

Do you need to Dyno tune your car or will a set of spark plugs work?

This site measures equipment objectively but the measure of other people is subjective.
With NO personal experience or interaction the measure is purely subjective. LOL I find that interesting.

When you have tools that do the job and the business reflect it's success by the use of those tools, why would you spend 100K or change anything?
The measure of success is success itself. Not another person's opinion. I was asked that often late in my career. YOU spend money on a new wrench
this one works just fine Kiddo.

I like Danny and I like the fact that he changes as he learns. I've never seen or read about an unhappy customer either.
I read personal remarks about him. That comes with success. That and 5 dollars will get you a cup of coffee too.

Regards

 

[DanielT]

Spkrdctr said:
In many trades, people think they are amazing and do a fantastic job when in reality they have been doing the same mistakes and mediocre job for 20 years.

The fact that a layperson is critiquing a professional labor is what caught my eye.. Thousands of people in my life offered opinions on heavy duty repairs. I believe it's called arm chair quarterbacks. I'm pretty good at it too. I also live in a small glass house.

I find the same with Danny Ritchie. I remember some of his early repairs in regards to VMPS. It was a "hoot" to follow the threads.
He has grow up in the industry just like everyone else and is a part of it. He produces a product and is successful. He has modified a lot of speakers to sound different.
His repairs are at a price point. The reviews on his work are there for anyone to read. I knew/know several owners of GR speakers. I haven't heard all of them. I owned the 123s LS9s and still own 4 dual 12" OB subs. Bang for the buck, and quality, it's a good product.

I read the comments on the LGK 313.00 flat pack. I've never heard it, so I can't comment. The bookmark for a bookshelf speaker was an Infinity Infinitesimal. The first 2 versions. I still have both pairs. 1975 or so. I'm not a peanut speaker fan. But The little Infinity was "THE" standard for me. I have no clue how they measure.

OTOH GRs NX series, very nice sounding, nice looking and reasonable priced speakers. Couple them with GRs servos. Pretty dynamic system for any amount of money.
Have I HEARD better. NO!

I find GR a wonderful company to work with. I've never used any cables or connectors. Just cabinets, speakers and Rythmik plate amps. I use my own wire, connectors, dampening and decoupling devices.

Have any of the people commenting about GR owned their products? Have you worked with the GR staff and Danny? Are any of the people commenting
in competition with GR?

Do you need to Dyno tune your car or will a set of spark plugs work?

This site measures equipment objectively but the measure of other people is subjective.
With NO personal experience or interaction the measure is purely subjective. LOL I find that interesting.

When you have tools that do the job and the business reflect it's success by the use of those tools, why would you spend 100K or change anything?
The measure of success is success itself. Not another person's opinion. I was asked that often late in my career. YOU spend money on a new wrench
this one works just fine Kiddo.

I like Danny and I like the fact that he changes as he learns. I've never seen or read about an unhappy customer either.
I read personal remarks about him. That comes with success. That and 5 dollars will get you a cup of coffee too.

Regards

But Danny has done some good stuff, which is even highlighted here at ASR. For example:

Amir:
I am happy to recommend the GR Research DIY Kit (sans all the voodoo tweaks he offers).

GR Research X-LS Encore Kit Speaker Review

This is a review and detailed measurements of the GR Research X-LS Encore DIY Kit speaker. It was kindly put together by member @Rick Sykora. You can see his build thread here: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/build-of-gr-research-x-ls-encore.14312/ The bare kit...

audiosciencereview.com

Amir:
Overall, this is a job well done by GR Research and I am going to recommend it to owners if they are not inclined to use my software EQ fix.

GR Research Klipsch RP-600M Upgrade Review (speaker)

This is a review of a Klipsch RP-600M which has been upgraded to a new crossover, binding posts and "No Rez" by GR Research. The kit costs US $244. OK, so there is nothing externally which is different. :) I can't open the unit to show the different bits but here is the back with new binding...

audiosciencereview.com

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Bad stuff:
Bad= unnecessary expensive. Danny is not the first gold digger to try to make a fortune on unnecessary expensive cables, it should be added.

GR Research B24 AC Cord Review

This is a review, listening tests and measurements of the GR Research B24 AC cable. I purchased it from the company direct. It costs US $349 in the 4 foot section I purchased. As the British saying goes, the B24 "looks the part" with the thick cabling and such. But fails in actual construction...

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Bad. Or maybe they're not bad in themselves (that's what happens if you throw a mediocre 3" broadband elements, full range drivers into a couple of boxes) BUT it's the cost that so many react to!

Amir:
It comes in various forms from a kit ($313) to fully finished pair ($1,038).

GR Research LGK 2.0 Speaker Review (A Joke)

This is a review and detailed measurements of the GR Research "Little Giant Killer" (LGK) 2.0 bookshelf speaker. It comes in various forms from a kit ($313) to fully finished pair ($1,038). Our DIY expert @Rick Sykora built my sample using the flatpack ($100): Rick had to do the round over on...

audiosciencereview.com

(That Amir wrote "A Joke" is because Danny, before that review, had said that he thinks Amir a joke)

There are plenty of 3" full range drivers that you can throw into a couple of boxes.

Parts Express, 3 inch full range drivers. There are 51 pcs with prices from $4 to $150. Various manufacturers:

Home

Edit:
I can say with almost 100% certainty that this classic 3" full range driver for $20 is better than what Danny uses in his LGK 2.0:

https://www.parts-express.com/Peerless-TC9FD18-08-3-1-2-Full-Range-Paper-Cone-Wofer-264-1062

Tested here:

Considering the high technical performance and very low cost, the TC9FD18-08 is, in my opinion, just an incredible speaker!

Peerless TC9FD18-08 | HiFiCompass

The THD measurements at voltage level 2.83 Volt were carried out with High Pass Filter "on" (2nd order Butterworth type, 80 Hz cutoff, HPF2-80) The THD measurements at voltage level 4 - 11.2 Volt were carried out with High Pass Filter "on" (2nd order Butterworth type, 150 Hz cutoff, HPF2-150)...

hificompass.com

 

[amirm]

Have any of the people commenting about GR owned their products? Have you worked with the GR staff and Danny? Are any of the people commenting
in competition with GR?

I am not in competition with him. And answer is yes to rest. Make the slightest attempt to verify his claims and he becomes a different person full of personal insults. He sees fit to critique other speaker designers but you best not even breathe a word about his. Even a positive review of his products is not enough. He will come out fighting to discredit you just in case the future results are not good.

Praise the product of his that perform as I have. But please don't defend the man this way. He hasn't earned such privilege.

 

[Martin Takamine]

 

[Spkrdctr]

I stick to my post. I was also doing the stuff Danny does back when he was in diapers. Being old does not mean your good, it just means I have been around the block a few times. Not my first rodeo by a long shot. Time has passed him by. That is a factual statement that all of our engineers and other esteemed ASR members can easily attest too. I don't want to dig down into the dirt so my statements were easy to verify. The 3 inch full range speaker was and is junk. I have handled hundreds and can see from Amir's tests that it is pure junk. I will not listen to a lecture from someone trying to support snake oil and fraudulent marketing. I am off this topic and on to other more uplifting threads.

 

[Pablo27]

Danny makes a living by selling snake oil power cables / speaker cables and "tube connectors". Despite his spurious claims, these products don't do what he claims they do. I don't actually believe even he believes what he says.

He attacks others who question him but then completely backs down (under the guise of just "wanting to move on" and "we can all get along", because he has been found out / rumbled, and its bad for his business). Because of that I would not believe a word he says or touch any of his products (one of which when reviewed by ASR was literally found to be dangerous).

I'm sure I saw something recently where he spoke about himself in the same context as Troels Gravesen or Linkwitz. Unbelievable.

 

[DanielT]

I wonder if Danny read what the Consumer Electronics Association's Audio Systems Committee (CEA R3 Committee) published?

https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?attachments/ansi-cta-2034-a-pdf.45978/

 

[moonlight rainbow dream]

Are there any examples of high profile subjectivist audiophiles who "saw the light" and issued a huge public mea culpa declaring all their past claims about speaker cables, etc. to be full of crap?

I don't think we're being realistic about human nature here in these dogpiles on Danny Richie.

 

[Pablo27]

Are there any examples of high profile subjectivist audiophiles who "saw the light" and issued a huge public mea culpa declaring all their past claims about speaker cables, etc. to be full of crap?

I don't think we're being realistic about human nature here in these dogpiles on Danny Richie.

None that I can recall. I imagine high profile subjectivisits stand to lose significantly by coming clean, so to speak.

"Er remember all those articles I wrote about chocolaty sounding cables, game changing dacs and veil lifting power cables, which I said you should spend a small fortune on, yeah well sorry about that but.."

I do appreciate it must be difficult for them to acknowledge they have been duped. They've put their names to countless articles / reviews of certain products over the years, back tracking would make them a bit of a laughing stock. They're in to deep now.

They would most likely take a financial battering also.

 

[Frgirard]

Are there any examples of high profile subjectivist audiophiles who "saw the light" and issued a huge public mea culpa declaring all their past claims about speaker cables, etc. to be full of crap?

I don't think we're being realistic about human nature here in these dogpiles on Danny Richie.

the society is subjectivist

Georges Lemaître, Stephen Jay Gould and Albert Einstein were believers and yet their work showed them the ineptitude of their belief​

 

[Petronius]

Colleagues, I have for a long time lusted after the JBL LSR6332 as a replacement for my my JBL 4410 speakers. as such I I occasionally stumble on to a review or test of the LSR 32/6332. I did find a review of them by Danny Richie on the GR Research site.

I was surprised and stunned by Mr. Richie's negative review of this speaker. Where did he get that response curve ? did he hang a Navajo blanket between the speaker and an EV67 mic? He called the speaker a "mess" implying that it was high priced junk.
With the exception of Mr. Richie, I have not seen any negative reviews of this speaker by any reviewer, including those by our British Colleagues across the pond. If Mr. Richie wants to hate JBL for any reason, that is his perogative.
Whatever veracity he has had with me is now gone forever.