Robin L
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It's jes a whole world of sin, let me tell you.
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Can anyone explain the vinyl renaissance?
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JP
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Doesn’t matter if you bought the original second-hand or what you paid - the license follows the original disc. Should be obvious why that is.
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Came across this on FB: https://www.theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that-will-put-her-en-1819572981
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So you think people should be able to pass around a disc with everyone making a copy of it with no compensation to the rights holder? Would you think it fair were it your work that was being copied?
So you get to decide when an artist stops getting paid for their work? You decide when they’ve got enough, when their IP should now be given away/sold with no recompense to the creator?
Name me another profession that gets paid over and over again for work completed years or decades earlier?
99.99% of the people in this world gets paid once for the work completed in that pay period.
What make performers so damn special?
CD fan here, I would listen to whatever gives me the best sound. Not touching vinyl as prices are overestimated and the gear is a pain in the... All that talk about the right needles, pffaaa. It is ok that people have this hobby, whatever makes cd prices go down please...
It is not comparable,
Fixing a car is not something unique that you did for the first time and others might learn from what you did and replicate it for a profit or their own enjoyment.
In a very simplistic way, when you do a “creative” job, be it artistic or scientific or whatever, either you are using your employer assets (i.e. chemist working for a chemical company) then yes, most often you are paid once but your employer will profit from the IP you created for years to come, or you do it using your own resources (i.e. a chemist in his own lab, or an artist that writes or performs a song, or an author that writes a book) and then of course the creator is entitled to collect profits from others using his creation if he wants to and has the resources.
If you have found a new technique or a new tool to fix cars and others are using it, then sure, you could get something out of your creation, why not? Don’t you think?
A matter of opinion.
I've been to around a dozen large venue concerts this year and paid them well for the ticket.
I've went to a larger number of smaller performances in lounges, etc and happily paid the cover.
But if you make a record and sell me a CD or whatever and I also gladly pay you for that too, but then expect you still own that for forever anyway, your sadly mistaken. If you want to get paid again, create something new to sell, or get off your ass and do a live performance.
The IP laws are total BS and only fair to the performer, they've been on a gravy chain way too long while the public got screwed.
JMHO
A tablet is tangible, and a lot less expensive than a vinyl collection. I'm not sick of streaming. If some people are sick of streaming, is there a sensible reason for this? The Incas had a ritual of sacrificing people. So what's so good about ritual? You need to ask if the ritual makes sense in a wider context. I do still play the CDs I obtained before streaming, although the vinyl has all gone, and isn't missed. If my CD player dies I'll probaby not bother replacing it, but just stream instead. I'll keep the CDs as decorations & sources of information. (Streaming companies should provide a lot more information! Starting with everything in the CD booklet...)
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The problem is the artist, producer, record company, etc - do not get compensated at all when the recording is resold, given away, or copied once multiple people end up with the music. The IP laws are there to discourage more than one license per person. You may disagree with the nature of the IP laws, but that does not change whether or not a violation has occurred. Not judging you here, just stating the obvious.
From a practical perspective keeping the original disc after ripping keeps the spirit of the law while giving you an archive to restore from if your ripped to the hard drive ultimately fails.
Agree, but I was also really excited about SACD, DVD-A, and Blueray. I skipped on MQA (is that still around?) and decided to wait if Atmos really has a different faith than the other highres formats.
This more a point for a physical medium. You can do it with CD but the "record spinning" is more visible with records.
It also depends also on what value you are teaching. Does art need technical perfection, or should it be presented in it original form?
I don't think there is a one answer.. but to give an example: every Aretha Franklin album that I have is technically B-quality at best. She blows the mics out as if they where from the 20s. And yet, she is one of the greats.
Thank you. Any album you would recommend?
No cheap shots needed. Pretty please and thanks.
JayGilb
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I always like hearing the tape hiss and then it ends to nothing… and the tape hiss starting on the next song.
Of course that is on pre-digital recordings that used tape as the source.
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It can't be lost on you how inept that statement is? Not that the rest of your justifications are any better. They're not getting paid for that CD multiple times, they just ask that one person own it at a time. Actually, I'm not going to waste energy debating someone's self-justification of illicit behavior.
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